g&s sport issue 95

GOOLE & SELBY SPORT ISSUE 95 3 JUNE 2020 Racegoers Decisions should be have to be patient made quickly Although a ban on many elite The local sporting scene still CC, who would have been play- cations relating to the comple- procedures amongst other later this month. sports was lifted in the latest eas- looks a rather forlorn sight ing York Senior League tions of the professional game, measures to try to alleviate Goole AFC and Selby Town ing of restrictions, with horse despite what is expected to be Premier Division cricket this and that at the National League, coronavirus are unlikely to stop racing the first to get under way further easing of the lock- term said that the loss of week- are resolved. social distancing sufficiently, in will be hoping their names are at Newcastle on Monday this down in England in the com- end cricket alone on a dry addition to the game's other dif- in there, but a leading Sunday week, local courses will have to ing week, as step two of the Saturday and Sunday was see- Firstly, the 2019-20 season ficulties, in the relatively short newspaper cast doubts over the be patient before starting meet- governments road map to ing between £1500 and £2000 has to be completed one way or term to allow training, travel, chances of that taking place in ings. somewhere near normality is in lost revenue on top of their the other by finishing the cam- changing facilities etc, allow- full although no official word is implemented from Monday, pre-booked activities lost to paigns still live, either on the ing matches in lower non- anywhere to be seen. Normally June is a busy month June 1, writes GRAEME Covid-19. field in full, which the Premier league football and grassroots for York, Doncaster, Beverley and WILSON. Division and Championship are too to be able to be played fully. It would seem folly to start a Pontefract, but the last racing in the Similar thoughts emanate at trying to do, or by curtailing the season without that famous county was at Wetherby in March. There have been welcome Carlton, Hemingbrough, Selby seasons and if necessary the rel- True, a vaccine or drug, competition available for Close to us, Beverley will return on sights at golf courses, bowls and in the York Vale too, and evant promotion and relegation whichever is the quicker, could entrants, and it is another June 11. clubs, tennis courts and fishing although nothing further offi- places through play-offs. As be a gamechanger, or maybe headache that the football ponds etc, and even the tenta- cial has been announced, what, discussed in the last Goole and there is neither. But to give authorities have to sort out as As mentioned, Newcastle staged tive signs of cricketers trying if anything, can be salvaged Selby Sport, the need to finish everyone breathing space to the game comes through a the first meeting behind closed out their techniques in the nets', from the 2020 summer remains is important, but there seems a plan more decisively and logi- major crisis. doors this week and the British given the fine weather in the to be seen. rush to do so when the next two cally for the future would be Horse Racing authorities have United Kingdom generally of campaigns are under the influ- better than rushing into a sea- Rugby Union awaits decision issued a calendar to cover the first late, but to suggest competitive The prospects for both Goole ence of the timing of the 2022 son still racked with uncertain- With Premiership Rugby week including a Classic weekend sport will start anytime soon AFC and Selby Town and FIFA World Cup in Qatar. That ty and no guarantee of some- Union still hopeful of salvaging at Newmarket on Friday and looks doubtful. Goole RUFC and Selby RUFC appears irrelevant, it seems, thing similar happening again their season after all other Saturday with the 1000 and 2000 in the Toolstation Northern unless there is a spike in Covid- when winter arrives. league rugby in the United Guineas. This was under-lined further Counties East League and 19 transmissions which sees Kingdom was shelved in by the England Cricket Board Yorkshire RUFC respectively another lockdown and sport Decisions will be made short- March, the players of our local No members of the paying public scuppering any optimism that remain in doubt. halted once more. ly, and the summer season of clubs, Goole, Selby and are allowed in, with restrictions local cricket may see half a sea- annual general meetings in Thornensians in the Yorkshire imposed, and all jockeys, stable son, with the declaration of no Usual close season plans are Secondly, at non-league level football is upon us, but in dif- Leagues will be waiting to see staff and course officials have to domestic cricket before August being drawn up as they have to below the National League, and ferent ways to normal and with when any training can start for wear PPE equipment such as face 1 – a further month on from be, but with football especially perhaps even their North and end of season presentations null a possible 2020-21 campaign. masks. their previous date of July 1. still to resolve matters in the South divisions, is there not a and void. It may be wise to Once more the similarities 2019-20 season, how and when case for terminating the 2020- make next season the same as with the football are there, York has already lost its Dante Guide lines had been issued as the new campaign can even 21 season in full. Admittedly well. social distancing, changing opening meeting last month, and to what clubs can do in the cur- start down the pyramid has to pandemic circumstances could facilities and eventually any there is no Magnet Cup day in July rent climate, but, if and when have plenty of question marks change, but with League One Cup entries in travel. either, together with their Music there is going to be any start to hanging over its head. and Two clubs fighting for their The elite players in the top and Racing events, but at the the 2020 season, the elements lives financially, who knows doubt too flight have been given the go- moment the four-day Ebor Festival of travel, changing facilities, The only certainty is what the compilation of the ahead for non-contact training, is still in the calendar, although like refreshments - all appertaining Football League may be when With the uncertainty of the but that is a long way from the Royal Ascot, which starts a fort- to social distancing - make it uncertainty August comes around – a date season starting on time in 2020- real competitive world. night on Tuesday, it may well difficult to conduct league looming fast for all. At the 21, the future of the world's It would seem difficult to sug- mean no racegoers allowed. cricket involving so many Doubts over structures, finan- moment there appear too many longest running domestic cup gest that next season can start clubs, so many miles apart to cial implications, social dis- imponderables to suggest all competition, the FA Cup, on time and the financial viabil- Time is still on the Knavesmire operate safely. tancing – just three reasons and will be set fair by August, remains questionable, as will ity of the sport at all levels, in officials' side and further easing there are more - are why the although next Monday, June 8 the FA Challenge Trophy and keeping with the whole sport- may see a different situation, as it The frustration is being felt, only certainty for 2020-21 in could see radical changes pro- Vase. ing world, is in question. may with Doncaster's St. Leger too, after one of the wettest both the football and rugby posed, with the English Certainly the loss of revenue Festival in September. It is a partic- autumns and winters, which union code is uncertainty. Football League and National The first of those sees 7329 over the club's bars, also shown ularly difficult time on the Town were leaving clubs wondering League considering the entrants awaiting the extra pre- since March is a huge loss and Moor, having lost meetings to whether their grounds would be Football does have major prospect of League Two revert- liminary round draw early next for Goole, their bi-annual mar- flooding last year and then the ready for a season. The effect of problems, and it would seem ing to regional football as in the month for the start, normally quee weekend was lost to the Lincoln Festival in March which is the pandemic is ironically now that two to three steps back early 1960s, with North and the second Saturday in August. pandemic and the thousands of the normal season opener to the turf that the unused wide open should be taken to eventually South divisions. pounds that does bring in. flat season in the UK. spaces are leaving parched sur- try and move forward. Ironically, if it runs to sched- There will be an online faces crying out for rain to Yes, there has been easing of ule that will come a week after meeting for step five and As with most sports, the way revive them, but leaving club Although the season was restrictions, with more intend- the new scheduled date for six non-league clubs on back in to anything like normality treasurers bemoaning the loss ended correctly for non-league ed, providing the current fall in completing this season's com- June 19 to discuss the may be slow, but the smaller of revenue across their bars and football from steps three to statistics is maintained, but petition with the Wembley final 2020/21 season. courses, such as Beverley and refreshment kiosks. seven, despite protestations even the testing and tracing on August 1. Pontefract, are heavily reliant on from over a 100 clubs up and crowds to make their popular sum- A spokesman for Goole Town down the pyramid, it seems The Covod-19 pandemic halt- mer race days. Beverley has been inconceivable they can start a ed football before this season's earmarked for an afternoon meet- new season until all the ramifi- quarter finals, now to take place ing tomorrow week, June 11, which will be without spectators Vikings’ sponsors Viking Fishery re-opens for the first time in its 330 year his- tory, and as it stands nine days of stick with club Now that it's possible to legal- third with 111lb 11oz, Tony Richardson was third with racing will take part on the ly run fishing matches, the Foster of Pontefract fourth with 68lb 5oz and P Foster fourth Westwood before the end of Goole AFC have announced grateful to the above businesses Viking Saturday Open has 105lb 7oz and Rob Padgett of with 64lb 15oz. August, subject to the pandemic, who are once again prepared to returned at Viking Fishery, Selby fifth with 104lb 11oz. with no entry to racegoers until fur- the continuing shirt sponsor- support the football club in Pollington. Fryston AC were on Hawk ther notice. these very difficult times. Next week's Viking Saturday Pond on Sunday, where D ship (home and away) by C&J It was held on Hawk pond last Open will be held on Deer Banks won the match with Pontefract will not stage racing Extension of the shirt sponsor- Saturday in hot, breezy condi- Pond. To book a place please 134lb 14oz. G Gill was second until July at the earliest. Stonemasonry. ship agreement for 2020-21, tions. ring 01405 785206. with 87lb 14oz, R Evans third should the season start, is part with 84lb 13oz and P Moran The financial ramifications on the In addition, Findagolfbreak, of an increase in the club’s com- Only ten pounds separated Open matches will also be fourth with 80lb 3oz. sport, as with others, will come to mercial side thanks to the first and fifth position, which held on Tuesdays, same contact light, but prize money in racing for Housesetc, Sweeting Bros Ltd, appointment of Adam Ruane as were all over 100lb. The winner number. K Turner won the Field AC the foreseeable future will be about their new Commercial with 114lb 11oz was Andy match on Deer Pond with 109lb 80 per cent of the 2019 equivalent Townends Chartered Manager. Blythe of Goole. He beat his Also on Saturday, Barnbow 2oz, J Foreman was second on a sliding scale for the class or son Jamie into second place, Social AC held a club match on with 83lb 5oz, B Frankland race However, in the short term Accountants, and A. Fletcher & Jamie's weight being 113lb 4oz. Deer Pond. This was won with third with 60lb and B Hook owners and trainers are just happy Mark Jukes of Castleford was 97lb 5oz by R Fanning. R Gill fourth with 56lb 13oz. to get their horses back on a race- Sons have already pledged their was second with 78lb 15oz. R course, with the smaller yards near to reaching the point of no return support for the forthcoming sea- had the sport not restarted. son. Goole AFC is extremely

GOOLE & SELBY SPORT page 2 3 June 2020 Don Bramley’s dream rugby team Foreword by Karen rugby. He does say that adventurer and so much ple, with a tale to tell, Joyce & Nina - watched too. you would have to be fair- more. You will see him, recorded on C60 cas- closely by brother Les). The following is his Ratcliffe ly ancient to remember a most Saturday afternoons settes, and nearly 150 Their sons also played lot of the players, but I at the rugby club, camera scrapbooks of newspaper for Selby, and now a abridged introduction to At the beginning of the have put links where I can, in hand, taking pictures clippings and photo- good selection of grand- the Walker family and lock down a number of to the player’s biogra- and chatting to anyone graphs. Plus another 100+ children also play there where our rugby connec- “Dream Teams” started to phies. If it gives a few of that will listen to him. He of rugby, cricket, Sherburn tions come from. appear across our rugby you something to read, can’t remember what he church, flying, farming pages. I asked my dad to and hopefully enjoy, in this told me the other day, but and Drax. Don gives some write one, who grumbled a time of uncertainty, he will his recollection of stories, bit (as is his way nowa- be pleased. events and people is, phe- I don’t think our family family history to days!) but took to the task nomenal. connections are as big as and produced more than I Introduction the Adamsons, but here explain where the thought he would. He has written a diary goes in a nutshell. My My dad is Don Bramley since he started school in dad, Roy Webster and rugby connections His Dream Team spans 86 years old this year. 1945; we have boxes and Peter Bramley (who have many generations of Farmer, photographer, boxes full of photographs all played for Selby) each friends and childhood author, writer of letters, and a similar amount of married one of the three heroes from both codes of historian, ex-rugby player, interviews with local peo- Walker sisters (Pat, spring from I am a great believer in breed- I now admit that many other ing from the best stock. various talents passed on to the Farming blood runs through grandchildren, must come from the generations on all sides my wife’s Walker side. from way back, but the rugby blood is more complicated, and Her grandmother – Fanny these are my thoughts. Swaine – was the eldest of the Makin horse jumping family and I’m sure I was never consulted her father, Les, was 2 years on in 1945 on my thoughts about Leeds United’s books, but didn’t spending my next six years as a get into the first team. Polio in boarder at Drax Grammar School 1947 ended that, so he took up at the other side of Selby, and golf at Selby, and I’m told he now at the other side of a huge made up for lack of strength and power station (The Read School, length, by tactics and cunning. Drax). Les and his wife Jessie, lived in Hambleton and had four children, It turned out to be a good deci- Pat, Joyce, young Les and Nina. sion in many ways. One was the many lifelong friends (and fellow His son inherited his golfing sufferers) I made, but mainly I skills by playing for Yorkshire discovered Rugby Union. I was but was unsuccessful in Yorkshire fairly useless at Sherburn finals. He used to travel the coun- Hungate School at the odd try as an England Amateur selec- attempt to try and play football up tor. Sister Nina and her friend at the White Rose ground. won the North of England u18s golf but she never played again All new boys at Drax were in and married another talented the same boat, and we all had an Selby rugby player, Peter (no early introduction to a rugby ball. Bramley relation to us); sons Being put into pairs, to run up and David and William. Joyce, also a down to pass and catch it, must keen golfer, married Selby player have come naturally to me, as I Roy Webster and produced three rugby playing sons Mark (sons May 2020 2 Alex, Jacob & Lucas), John and was picked out to demonstrate Robert so it’s all kept in the fam- my unknown skills, which I was ily. very much unaware of! It was later explained, that I had moved Pat and her mother Jessie were away from the receiver as I both good tennis players. Pat had passed the ball – so a good start. many enjoyable years with Six years at Drax slipped by, Sherburn in the York Senior helped by rugby education, u13’s, League. Our son, Martin, seems Colts, House matches, 1st XV to be the blood connection then Draxonians till joining Selby between the talents of various in 1954 and on and off till 1962, sporting oldies, and the present when a knee injury finished me day game. Like me, he was sent off. to a Colditz like mansion, But going back to blood and Howsham Hall near York, with- breeding. The only rugby blood out any consultation at 9 years in my ancestors, was Uncle Fred old, but great rugby for us for Roberts (my mother’s brother) of three years coached by Simon Fairburn, playing for Brotherton and Anthony Knock. St Johns rugby league and sign- ing for Hull Kingston Rovers for Martin’s three children, James, £200 and buying a motor bike Charles & William, all play rugby with it! He was flattened, I’m and cricket for various teams, and told, by Billy Batten in his second the weekend is a big challenge game and never played again! getting them to their different fix- Sadly I never got to talk to him tures. My middle daughter about it. Karen’s youngest Honor, is a My father, Jim, was a good founder member of Selby Girls’ footballer in the 20’s with Church team and continues next season Fenton, but spent more time on in the Ladies team. You will also his bike in 25 and 100 mile time find Honor serving behind the bar trials. He also biked to and raced in the Clubhouse! at Roundhay Park and once did 1,200 miles touring Europe – all I know their cricket talent does- well recorded. Both his parents n’t come from me, except may be died in 1932 so he had to settle the catching, but I do worry about down, work and get married. I injury at rugby for one of them, arrived in 1934. might affect their cricket prospects.

3 June 2020 GOOLE & SELBY SPORT page 3 75 years playing and watching rugby leads to Dreamboat Selby side My Dreamboat year old QEGS Selby XV Other Nationalities winger at Wembley Selby side, comes in 1946 was my 15 Oliver Grieveson Bert Cook – Leeds and NZ lucky one. Ron Rylance, could 14 Derek Hodgson John Ranson –Durham & England actually write a let- from the last 75 ter, saying he’d Wing played at Drax, and years, of playing later he had biked to 13 Ron Chambers Jeff Butterfield – Cleckheaton & Sherburn. and watching. My Selby side is on England the left, and Other Nationalities on the 12 Alex Webster Ron Rylance – RL Wakefield Tr, right, followed by a Starting at the old bit of an explana- Huddersfield & England tion. Drax Grammar They would train 11 Mike Swift Lionel Cooper – RL Huddersfield & together and share knowledge! Aus or Brian Bevan-Warrington & School in 1945-50 Aus (now The Read 10 James Bramley Cliff Morgan – Cardiff & Wales 9 Nipper McGill Herbert Goodfellow – RL Wakefield School). My playing Trinity & England time at Selby was 8 George Woodall George Zissler – Darlington/Durham 1954-62. 7 Don Bramley (c) Derek Hinds – Burn 6 Len Shaw Maro Itoje – Saracens & England I supported Rugby 5 Pres Ken Holden – Arthur Clues – RL Leeds & Aus League (Wakefield Yorks & Doncaster 4 Peter & Steve Bramley Fred Roberts – Brotherton St Johns Trinity) in the holi- & Hull KR days, and writing 3 Doug Forsyth Eric Burns- Selby 2 PW Zoz Mumby & Dylan Hartley – Northampton & for autographs Mike Blackwell England passed the time at 1 David Grace Peter Francis – Maesteg & Wales Subs: Jimmy Moore & Peter Foster school. Trinity’s 18 Touch Judge: Jack Harker No 15 hero! Wales. Another hero and pen- recorded Derek talking to Cliff what position my mother’s Wales. I took a South African Oliver Grieveson Best from pal of mine, Methodist and in Welsh. young farmer I met at a YF Drax. Olly played for No 12 singer. Led the tuned-up brother, Fred Roberts, played dance, to see his team play at Headingley, Yorkshire and singing Lions off the plane in No 7 - Open Side The Arms Park with 7/6d stand- England trials. He was on the Alex Webster. Star back of South Africa 1955 and never Don Bramley (capt!). To try and sadly I had very little talk ing tickets. The NFU fixed us England committee with ex looked back. Received treas- and make sure props and sec- up at a rugby keen B&B farm to Yarnbury player, Roy Manock. recent years. Injured too often! ured letters from him, from Isle ond rowers don’t play stand off with him. But I do know he stay over. 20 years later, their Olly became Treasurer of the of White, in later years. When for at least 10 brawls under the young son, Peter Francis RFU but could have been His Grandma, Joyce, second he was ill, I sent him Gray’s posts, and the wingers must get signed for Hull KR from propped for Wales – but sadly President – Roy was! Elergy. He said he had done it a pass now and again! also only once. We still keep in Bert Cook (HE) Leeds RL sister to produce Selby rugby for his school certificate in Derek Hinds from Burn. Brotherton St Johns in the late touch at Christmas. and NZ. Small and always 1947. Welsh dairy farmer, married smiling. Best signature. Met cousins. Thea to get into Yorkshire and ‘20s for £200. He was flattened Touch Judge Jack Harker. him shooting over Drax Power No 9 Selby Club. Tremendous club- Hailed from Knottingley and Station land. We talked rugby Ron Rylance Wakefield Nipper McGill. Was long man. My close up of Cliff and in his first game by the famous, onto Otley. Must have propped league and listened to Winston term No 9 when we amalgamat- him is on his mantlepiece! in Selby 2nds before my time. Churchill’s funeral in his car Trinity. Super ballplayer and ed in 1954 and was always an No 6 - Blind Side Billy Batten and never played Great to be with, and listen to over lunch. Later he sold us inspiration during and after the Len Shaw. A pit brickie. anywhere, and could talk forev- tiles for our kitchen floor and anywhere in the backs. Ex- game. Tony Longfield took Always looked an old man. I again. He bought a good motor- er about Jeff Butterfield. He signed my now, nearly full, over later and finished up star- can still remember and feel his would run the touch line, and Visitor’s Book. Died too young QEGS and winger in the 1946 ring at bowls! tackle in the trials of ‘54, so bike with his £200. select the pub, food and drink of throat cancer. I walked with Herbert Goodfellow - want him on my side! Came on afterwards. Lewis Jones into his funeral at cup final. Moved to star studied Wakefield Trinity. Good week his motor-bike with Eric Burns No 3 Boston Spa. in, week out! I walked into behind. Big mate of Jack Referees No 14 Huddersfield via Dewsbury. At town from Belle Vue with Ron Harker. Vet Doug Forsyth. In as a Walter Jackson and Kevin Derek Hodgson. Married to Rylance and him. A door step Maro Itoje. He has to be in Weston Uncle Fred’s daughter, Freda, stand-off and with Aus Pat sitter asked “How about Wigan any team, in any position, but I travelling Dr – this may be his Walter taught maths at Drax showed great pace when he got next week Bert?”. Bert replied have trouble pronouncing his by the bell and refereed accord- a pass. Borrowed by Church Devery at centre, they put “No problem, we will do ‘em”. name. first 1st XV team game?! ingly – not much advantage and Fenton Young Farmers, to help Back at school, I passed on my No 5 a lot of whistle! A big shock for win 100 yards and relay in Lionel Cooper in for 10 tries v inside information and the President Ken Holden Eric Burns. Understanding me to see him in the spotlight regional rally. I might have week after - Trinity 9 v Wigan Doncaster and Yorkshire. leading the dancing at the upset his watching Vicar for Leeds. Also in England side 35! Douglas Bader’s Wing Leader the front row was my weakness Annual Ball at Selby Baths. strong words I used, for not No 8 in WWII. Another of my heroes I’ve watched Kevin ref vari- making sure his opposite num- that won the World Cup in George Woodall. My hitch- and to stick with in London. in two years of reffing, but Eric ous games over the last few ber was in touch. Lucky to sur- hiking and camping mate Arthur Clues Leeds RL and years. The opposite of Walter. vive an explosion at his work in France in 1954, but he never before we got married! England Australian stalwart. I went by a hero, coming week-in, week- Well done! later life. ATC and stopper of anyone train at 14 years old to watch In Support John Ranson Durham & got a game. His son, Mike, has who dodged behind me at open- other Nationalities v France in out, on the back of Len Shaw’s To cheer us up if we lost, England wing. Came to Selby, side. Now sits in his car watch- Hull. On the way, I heard the Jimmy Moore and Pete Foster. worked for Guiness and was written extensively on rugby ing on a Saturday afternoon, Leeds fans saying, they would motor bike from Wakefield, Also to look after our wallets interested in our cattle. Seemed and I get the coffees and pork be feeding Arthur his raw meat. and keep a check on the kitty. a good choice for our son’s league, from national newspa- pies at half time. But Frenchman Édourd helped me to understand what Big Sal (Sally Lockwood), Godfather, but sadly now George Zissler Darlington. Ponsinet, KO’d him in the first John Heptonstall and John moved on. pers to magazines and year- Don’t know much about few minutes and Arthur was was going on. Lancaster. No 13 George, but he has to be in for stretchered off with a broken Press Ron Chambers. Selby books, both in Britain and the photo I have of him, Derek jaw. No 2 Major H A R Puttee would Bohemian soccer player with Hinds, and me wearing differ- No 4 report for the Selby Times and Olly G. Spent most of his time France ent Selby ties, talking to The Peter Bramley (and Steve). Zoz (PW) Mumby – Burn & Bill Wharram would report for in South Africa. Played against Cliff Morgan at a Coventry Great forwards and Club men. the Sunday Times. Lions passing through. No 11 lunch for David Duckham and Peter in for marrying my wife’s Drax. Great hooker in days To keep the peace in our Jeff Butterfield John Spencer. We had been col- youngest sister, Nina, to pro- household - included on the Cleckheaton, Northampton & Mike Swift. Never seemed to lected and driven by his friend, duce another Selby player, when the ball went in the mid- bench, son Martin (late England. Jack Harker’s No 1 the big high kicking England David. 80s/early 90s), two other grand- get much ball, but scored some standoff, Mike Weston. I also Fred Roberts. I’m not sure dle! Had very frizzy hair at sons Charles (Colts) and William (u13s). good tries in olden days. Worth school – not now! Could drib- his place for endless store of ble a rugby ball like Stanley dirty ditties when coming home Matthews. Mike Blackwell in by bus!! reserve. Most farmers sold Lionel Cooper Mike their corn at a good price (Huddersfield) or Brian Dylan Hartley - Bevan (Warrington). Brian Northampton & England. looked an old man when he Long standing hooker and cap- started, but lasted 12 years. tain. Would have an easy job No 10 sorting this lot out! Hartley cap- James Bramley (aged 17). tained England to the Grand All three grandsons and their Slam in 2016. father started off at scrum half, No 1 and like me, will probably end David Grace. Better at crick- up centre or back row. I’ve put et maybe. Needed hitting early James in with Cliff Morgan, to on to get him going at rugby. chat him up and learn from him. Enthusiastic singer, but never in I’ve read Cliff Morgan’s book tune! Signed RL for Castleford three times over the years, and to help pay for a house. Played each time I’ve underlined fresh only one game in the Cas first bits of knowledge for them to, team – no one there to “hit” him someday, hopefully take in. The early on! My stag party, finally last time I’ve added the words got him back to the clubhouse, “this book should replace the in 1964. Grandson, Nick, plays Bible for No 10s”. for Selby on and off. Cliff Morgan - Cardiff & Peter Francis Maesteg &