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لقاء قناة الشرقية

Published by سيد مصطفى عباس, 2021-04-08 10:19:30

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‫ﺃﺻﻞ ﻓﻜﺮﺓ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻳ‪‬ﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹸﻌـﻴﻦ ﻭﺯﻳـﺮ ﻓﻘﻴـﺮ ﺃﻭ ﺍﺑـﻦ ﺷـﻬﻴﺪ؟‬ ‫ﻫــﺬﺍ ﺃﹸﺳــﻠﻮﺏ ﺧــﺎﻃﺊ‪ .‬ﻭﺇﻧﻤــﺎ ﺑــﺎﻟﻌﻜﺲ ﻳﺠــﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗــﺄﺗﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﺸﺨﺺ )ﻣﻠﻴﺎﻥ()‪ (١‬ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻟﺸـﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺒﺤـﺚ ﻋـﻦ ﺍﻷﻣـﻮﺍﻝ‬ ‫ﻭﻟﺪﻳـﻪ ﺗﹶﺨﺼـﺺ ﻭﻟﺪﻳـﻪ ﻓﻜـﺮ ﻭﻟﺪﻳـﻪ ﺳﻴﺎﺳـﺔ ﻭﻟﺪﻳـﻪ ﺇﺩﺍﺭﺓ‬ ‫ﻭﺗﹶﺠﻌﻠﻪ ﻓﻲ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﺼﺐ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻫﻲ ﻫﻜﺬﺍ ﻗﺪ ﺍﺧﺘﻠﻔﺖ ﻛﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺍﺯﻳﻦ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻇﺮﻭﻑ ﺗﺴﻤﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋـﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒـﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ‬ ‫ﻭﻇﺮﻭﻑ ﺍﻹﺗﻴﺎﻥ ﺑـﻪ ﻛﻤﺮﺷـﺢ ﻟﺮﺋﺎﺳـﺔ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﻳﻌﺘﻘﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ ﻛـﺎﻥ‪ ‬ﻣﺤﺼـﻮﺭﺍﹰ ﻣـﺎ ﺑـﻴﻦ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ ﻭﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌـﺎﻣﺮﻱ‪ ،‬ﻭﺳـﺮﻋﺔ ﺳـﺤﺐ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺪﻋﻢ ﻋﻨﻪ ﺃﻭ ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺍﻟﺘﺨﻠـﻲ ﻋﻨـﻪ ﻓـﻲ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻷﺣﻴـﺎﻥ ‪-‬ﻛﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﻭﺻﻔﻪ ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ‪ -‬ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻣﻔﺎﺟﺌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﻟـﻢ ﻳﻜـﻦ ﻣ‪‬ﻤ‪ ‬ﻬـﺪﺍﹰ ﻟـﻪ ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﺎﺑﻖ‪ ،‬ﺑﺪﻭﻥ ﺳﺎﺑﻖ ﺇﻧﺬﺍﺭ ﺑﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﹸﺧﺮﻯ‪..‬‬ ‫‪٥١‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻏﻨﻲ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺠﻬﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﻟﻴﺔ ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺤﻘﻴﻘـﺔ ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﻛﻨﺖ ﻗﺪ ﻭﺿﻌﺖ ﺻﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﺣﺴﻦ ﻓـﻲ ﺑـﺎﻟﻲ ﻋـﻦ ﻋـﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒـﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ‪ ،‬ﺑﺄﻧﱠﻪ ﻳﺴﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹶـﺪ‪‬ﻡ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻧﻌـﻢ ﻓﻮﺟﹺﺌـﺖﹸ ﺑﻌـﺪﻡ‬ ‫ﺇﻣﻜﺎﻧﻴﺘﻪ‪ ..‬ﺃﻋ‪‬ﺘﹶﺮﹺﻑ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻓﺸﻞ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺑﻜﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻜﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ! ﻟﻢ ﻳﻨﺠﺢ ﺑﺸﻲﺀ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻧﺠـﺢ ﻗﻠـﻴﻼﹰ‬ ‫ﺑﻌﻼﻗﺎﺗﻪ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ‪ ،‬ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟـﺪ‪ ..‬ﺍﺗﱢﻔﺎﻗﻴـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﻴﻦ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺃﺳﻤﻴﺘﹶﻬﺎ ﻧﺠﺎﺣـﹰﺎ ﺃﻭ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺑﻨﺠـﺎﺡ‪ ،‬ﻗـﺪ ﻳﻜـﻮﻥ‪ ..‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﻋﻠﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﹶﻌ‪‬ﺘﹶﺒﹺﺮ‪‬ﻫﺎ ﻧﺠﺎﺡ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﻋﻠـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﻋﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻢ ﺃﹸﺭﹺﺩ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻃﱠﻠ‪‬ﻊ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﺎ ﺃﺻﻼﹰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟‬ ‫‪٥٢‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻷﻧﻬﺎ ﺣـﻴﻦ ﺗـﺄﺗﻲ‬ ‫ﻫﻨﺎ ﺗﹸﺴ‪‬ﺮ‪‬ﻕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶـﺪﺧﻞ ﻓـﻲ ﺑﻴﺌـﺔ ﺍﻟﻔﺴـﺎﺩ‬ ‫ﻓﺘﹸﺴ‪‬ﺮ‪‬ﻕ ﺃﺻﻼﹰ ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺂﺧﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﻥ ﻓﻤﺎ ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺋـﺪﺓ؟‬ ‫ﺣﺘﻰ ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻧﺎﺟﺤﺔ ﺳﺘﻔﺸﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﺣﺪﺓ ﻣﻦ ﺃﺳﺎﺳﻴﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻤﻼﻣﺢ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺭ‪ ‬ﺳـ ‪‬ﻤﺖ‬ ‫ﺑﻔﺘﺮﺓ ﻣﺎ ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ‪ ٢٠١٨‬ﻫﻮ ﺗﺤـﺎﻟﻔﻲ ﺍﻹﺻـﻼﺡ ﻭﺍﻟﺒﻨـﺎﺀ‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﺳﺒﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﻤﺜﺎﻝ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺣﻤﻪ ﺍﷲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ ..!! :‬ﺟﻨﺎﺑـﻚ ﻛﹸﻨـﺖﹶ ﻣ‪‬ﺼ‪‬ـ ‪‬ﺮﺍﹰ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳﻜـﻮﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻫﻨﺎﻟـﻚ ﺗﺤـﺎﻟﻒ‪ ‬ﻋـﺎﺑﺮ‪ ‬ﻟﻠﻄﻮﺍﺋـﻒ‪ ،‬ﹸﻛﻨـ ﹶﺖ ﻣ‪ ‬ﺼـ ‪‬ﺮﺍﹰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻜـﻮﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺗﺤﺎﻟﻔﹰﺎ ﻋﺎﺑﺮﹰﺍ ﻟﻠﻄﻮﺍﺋﻒ؛ ﻟﻜﻲ ﻳ‪‬ﻀﹾﺮﹺﺏ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﻟﻚ ﺷـﻲﺀ؟‬ ‫ﺃﻧـﺎ ‪‬ﻳﻌ‪‬ﺘﹶـﺐ ﻋﻠـﻲ‪ ‬ﻷﻧﻨـﻲ ﺗﻮﺍﻓﻘـﺖ ﻣـﻊ ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌـﺎﻣﺮﻱ‪ ،‬ﺍﻷﺥ ‪٥٣‬‬

‫ﻫﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣﺮﻱ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘﻰ ﻧـﺄﺗﻲ ﺑـﺮﺋﻴﺲ ﻟﻠـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻌﺒـﺎﺩﻱ ﺃﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻬﻠﻚ ﻧﻔﺴﻪ ﻷﺟﻞ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻟﺤﺸـﺪ ﻗﺒـﻞ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ؟!‬ ‫ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻘـﺮﺭ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻧﺘﺤـﺎﻟ ‪‬ﻒ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻭﻫـﻮ ﻗﺒـﻞ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﻭﻧﹶﺪﺧﻞﹶ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛﻨﺎ ﺳﻨﻔﻮﺯﹸ ﺑﺄﻛﺜﺮ ﻣـﻦ ‪ ١٥٠‬ﻣﻘﻌـﺪ‬ ‫ﺳﻮﻳﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻜﻨﱠﻪ ﺫﻫﺐ ﻭﺃﻗﻨﻌﻪ ﺍﻟﺤﺸـﺪ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺤـﺎﻟﻒ ﻣﻌﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻗﺒـﻞ‬ ‫ﻳـﻮﻡ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﺍﻧﻘﻠﺒـﻮﺍ ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺿـﺤﻜﻮﺍ ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ ﻟﻨﻘـﻞ‬ ‫ﻫﻜﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻭﺿﺎﻉ ﻛﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻻ ﺗﹶﻌ‪‬ﺘ‪ ‬ﺐ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻌﺒﺎﺩﻱ ﺣـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﺃﺭﺍﺩ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﺘﺤﺎﻟ ‪‬ﻒ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻟﺤﺸـﺪ ﻭﻣـﻊ ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌـﺎﻣﺮﻱ؟ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﺘﺐ‪ ‬ﻋﻠﻲ‪ ‬ﻓﻘﻂ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻟﻚ ﻣﻦ ﻋﺘﺐ ﻓﺴﻴﻜﻮﻥ ﺑﺎﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﺗﻴﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻗـﻮﻝ ﻟـﻚ‬ ‫ﺷﻲﺀ ﺁﺧﺮ‪ ،‬ﺑﺼﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﹸﺧﺮﻯ ‪‬ﻭ ﹶﺻـﻠﹶ ﹾﺖ ﻟـﻲ ﺭﺳـﺎﺋﻞ ﺗﻬﺪﻳـﺪ‬ ‫ﺑﺄﻧﱠﻨـﺎ ﺳ‪‬ـﻨﹸﺤﺮﻕ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺻـﺎﺭ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺧﺎﺭﺟـﺎﹰ ﻋـﻦ‬ ‫‪ ٥٤‬ﻧﻄﺎﻕ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ )ﺍﻟﺤﺸﺪﺍﻭﻱ( ﻣﻊ ﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ!‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺮﹺﻕ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﺳـﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‬ ‫ﺃﻗﻮﻝ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻓﻲ ﺣﻴﻨﻬﺎ ﺃﹸﺻـﺮ‪‬ﺡ‬ ‫ﺳﻴﺄﺗﻲ ﻭ‪‬ﻗﺘﹶﻪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺧ‪‬ﻔ ﹸﺖ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﻟﻢ ﺃﺗﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﻣـﻊ ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣﺮﻱ‪ ،‬ﻗﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻪ‪ :‬ﻓﻼﻥ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧـﻲ ﻫـﻞ ﺗﻘﺒـﻞ ﺑـﻪ ﺃﻡ ﻻ؟ ﻗـﺎﻝ‪:‬‬ ‫ﻧﻌﻢ ﺃﻗﺒﻞ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻓﻘﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻪ‪ :‬ﻧﻤﻀﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻘﻂ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻓﻘـﻂ‪ ،‬ﻗﻠـﺖ ﻟـﻪ‪:‬‬ ‫ﻣﻌـﻚ ﻛﺸـﺨﺺ‪ ،‬ﻛــ)ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ ﻋـﺎﻣﺮﻱ(‪ ،‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟـﻲ ﻋﻼﻗـﺔ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﺤﺸﺪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺒﺎﻗﻲ ﻋﻠﻴـﻚ ﺃﻥ ﺗﹸﻘﻨﹺـ ‪‬ﻊ ﺃﹸﻧﺎﺳ‪‬ـ ‪‬ﻚ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺼـﻮﻳﺖ ﺃﻭ ﻻ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗﺔ ﻟﻲ‪ ..‬ﻛﻨﺖﹸ ﺃﺭﺗﺠﻲ ﻣﻨﻪ ﺷﻴﺌﺎﹰ ﻭﻓﻌﻼﹰ ﻭﺍﻓـﻖ ﻭﻣﺸـﻰ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻣﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﺍﻹﺻﻼﺡ ﻟﻢ ﻳﺴﺘﻤﺮ؟ ‪٥٥‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﺤــﺎﻟﻒ‬ ‫ﺍﻹﺻـﻼﺡ ﺍﻟﻌﺒـﺎﺩﻱ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻳﺮﻳـﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳﺠﻌـﻞ ﻧﻔﺴـﻪ ﻫـﻮ ﺭﺋﻴﺴـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛﺎﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻟﻚ ﺭﻓـﺾ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟـﻢ ﺃﺳـﺘﻄﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻣﻀـﻲ ﺑـﻪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻋﻤ‪‬ﺎﺭ )ﺍﷲ ﻳﺤﻔﻈﻪ( ﻟﺪﻳﻪ ﺗﻮﺟﻬﺎﺗﻪ ﺍﻟﺨﺎﺻﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻢ ﺃﺳـﹶﺘ ‪‬ﻄﻊ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻧﺪ‪‬ﻣ‪‬ﺞ ﻣﻌﻪ ﻷﻧﻬﺎ ﺻﻌﺒﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺟﻬﺎﺕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻋـﺬﺭﻧﻲ ﻻ ﺃﺭﻳـﺪ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻛﺴﺮ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘﻰ ﻭﺇ ‪‬ﻥ ﻛﺴﺮ ﺑﻲ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻛﺴﺮ ﺑﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻧﺤـــ ‪‬ﻦ ﻧﹶــﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋـــﻦ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـــﺔ ﻭﻟـــﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﻛﺄﺷﺨﺎﺹ‪ ..‬ﻧﹶﻘﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﺎﺕ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ‪ ،‬ﻣﻊ ﺫﻟـﻚ‪ ،‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺫﻛﺮﻫﺎ ﻷﻧﻪ ﻳﺰﻋﻞ‪ ،‬ﻻﺣﻘﺎﹰ ﺇﻥ ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﺳﺘﺄﺗﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻻ ﺗﹸﺮﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﺰﻋﻠﻪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫‪ ٥٦‬ﺃﺯﻋﻠﻪ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻟﺴـﺒﺐ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻟـﻢ ﻳﺠﻌـﻞ ﺗﺤـﺎﻟﻒ‬ ‫ﺍﻹﺻﻼﺡ ﺃﻥ ﻳﺴﺘﻤﺮ‪ ،‬ﻫ‪‬ﻢ ﻳﻘﻮﻟـﻮﻥ‪ :‬ﺳـﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﺍﻧﻔـﺮﺩﻭﺍ ﺑﺎﺗﹼﺨـﺎﺫ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﺮﺍﺭ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﺧﻄﺎﺀ ﻣﻦ ﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻋ ‪‬ﺼـﻢ ﺳـﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ‬ ‫ﺃﻋﺼ‪‬ﻢ ﻧﻔﺴـﻲ‪ ،‬ﺣـﺪ‪‬ﺛﹶﺖﹾ ﺃﺧﻄـﺎﺀ ﻣـﻦ ﻫﻨـﺎ ﻭﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻭﺗﻔﺎﻗﻤـﺖ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻣﻮﺭ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺍﻵﺭﺍﺀ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﻣ‪‬ﺨﺘﻠﻔـﺔ ﺟـﺪﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠـﻢ ﺃﺳ‪‬ـﺘﹶﻄ‪‬ﻊ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺃﺟ ‪‬ﻤﻊ ﺑﻴﻨﻬﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻛﻨـﺖﹶ ﺗﹸﻤﺜـﻞ ﻣﺸـﺮﻭﻋﺎﹰ ﻭﻃﻨﻴـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻣﻬﻤﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺘﻘﺪ‪ ‬ﻭﻣﻦ ﻛﻞ ﺍﻟﻄﻮﺍﺋﻒ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ‬ ‫ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﻗﺪ ﻳ‪‬ﻜﻮﻥ‪ ‬ﻫﻮ ﺍﻷﺳﺎﺱ ﻟﻠﻌﺒـﻮﺭ‬ ‫ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣﻨﻄﻘـﺔ ﻣﺸـﺮﻭﻉ ﻭﻃﻨـﻲ ﻣﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﺸـﺮﻭﻉ ﺍﻟـﻮﻃﻨﻲ‬ ‫ﺗﹶﻔﹶﱠﺘـﺖ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ ﺃﹸﺻـﻴ ‪‬ﺐ ﺑﺨﻴﺒـﺔ ﻣـﻦ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺘﹶﻔﹶﺘﱡـﺖ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ‬ ‫ﻳ‪ ‬ﺤ ‪‬ﻤﻞ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ ﺍﻟﻤﺴﺆﻭﻟﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻳﻘﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﺇﻧﱠﻚ‪ ‬ﺃﻧﺖ ﻟـﻢ ﹶﺗﻤـﺾﹺ ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻨﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﺑﻬﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﺸﺮﻭﻉ ﺍﻟﻮﻃﻨﻲ‪٥٧ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﻴـﻒ ﺃﻣﻀـﻲ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﻨﻬﺎﻳﺔ؟! ﻣﺜﻼﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟـﻢ ﺗﻤـﺾﹺ ﻟﻠﻨﻬﺎﻳـﺔ ﺑﻬـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﺸـﺮﻭﻉ ﺍﻟـﻮﻃﻨﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻋﺘﺒﺎﺭ ﺃﻧﱠﻚ ﺗﺮﻛﺖﹶ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﺑﺮ ﻟﻠﻄﻮﺍﺋـﻒ ﻭﺫﻫﺒـﺖﹶ ﻣـﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﺛﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﻟﺘﻔﻌﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﻲ‪ ،‬ﺑﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﹸﺧﺮﻯ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻗﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟـﻚ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺮ ﱢﺷﺢ ﻧﹶﻔﺴﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫﻮ ﻣﺮﻓﻮﺽ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫﺬﺍ ﻃﻠﺒﺎﺗـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻛﻴـﻒ؟‬ ‫ﺣﻞﹼ ﻟﻲ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻤﻌﺎﺩﻟﺔ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺇﺫﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﻌﺎﺩﻟﺔ ﺻﻌﺒﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺇﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﻌﺒﺎﺩﻱ‬ ‫ﺃﻭ ﻻ ﻳﻜﻮﻥ ﻣﻌﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻧﺸﻘﻮﺍ ﻋﻨﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺧﺮﺝ ﻣﻨﻪ ﺍﻟﻔﻴﺎﺽ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﻌـﺪﺩ‬ ‫ﺻﺎﺭ ﻗﻠﻴﻞ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﻨﻔﻊ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺮﻣﺰﻳﺎﺕ ﻻ ﺗﻨﻔﻊ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻛﺘﻠـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻹﺻﻼﺡ ﻣﺜﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻛﻢ ﻋﺪﺩﻫﻢ؟ ﻛﻢ ﺻﻔﻰ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ؟ ﺩﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﺋﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻛﻴﻒ ﺳﹸﺄﺻﻮﺕ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ؟ ﻭﺍﻭﻟﺌـﻚ ﻻ ﻳﻘﺘﻨﻌـﻮﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫‪ ٥٨‬ﻭﻣﻦ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ‪ -‬ﺁﺳﻒ‪ -‬ﺑﻌﺜﻴﺔ ﻭﺩﺍﻋﺸﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺧﻤﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﺨﻨﺠﺮ ﻭﻣﺎ‬

‫ﺷﺎﺑﻪ ﺧﻤﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﺨﻨﺠﺮ‪ ،‬ﺣﺮﺍﻡ ﻋﻠﻴﻚ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﻫﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣﺮﻱ ﺣﺮﺍﻡ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺘﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﻷﻥ ﻣﻌﻪ ﻭﻗﺤﻴﻦ ﻭﻏﻴـﺮﻫﻢ‬ ‫ﻭﻏﻴـﺮﻫﻢ‪ ...‬ﻓﻜﻴـﻒ ﺗﻜـﻮ‪‬ﻥ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ؟ ﺃﻟـﻴﺲ ﻫـﻮ ﺑﺮﻟﻤﺎﻧـﹰﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺃﺗﹸﺴ‪‬ﻘﻂ ﺑﺮﻟﻤﺎﻧﺎﹰ؟ ﺗﻌﺎﻝﹶ ﻟﻨﹸﺴ‪‬ـﻘ‪‬ﻂ ﺍﻟﺒﺮﻟﻤـﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﺃﻟـﻴﺲ ﻫـﻮ ﺗﺼـﻮﻳﺘﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﻭﺗﺤﺼﻞ ﻋﻠﻰ ‪ ١٦٦‬ﺻﻮﺗﹰﺎ؟ ﻛﻴﻒ ﺃﺣﺼ ﹸﻞ ﻋﻠـﻰ ‪ ١٦٦‬ﺻـﻮﺗﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﻛﺘﻠﺔ ﺍﻹﺻﻼﺡ ﻋﺪﺩﻫﻢ ﺩﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﺋﺔ؟ ﺧﻤﺴـﻮﻥ ﺳـﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﺧﻤﺴﺔ ﻭﺧﻤﺴﻮﻥ ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﻋﺸﺮﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋﻤـﺎﺭ‪ ،‬ﺃﻣـﺎ ﻣﺎﺋـﺔ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﻣﺎﺋﺔ ﻭﻋﺸﺮﺓ ﻏﺎﻳﺘﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﻛﻴﻒ ﺗﹶﺤﺼﻞ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺃﺻﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟــ‪ ١٦٦‬ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﻟﻢ ﺗﹶﺘﹶﺤﺎﻟﻒ ﻣﻊ ﻓﻼﻥ ﻭﻓﻼﻥ؟ ﺟﻬﺔ ﻓﺎﺳﺪﺓ‪ ،‬ﺟﻬﺔ ﺑﻌﺜﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﺟﻬـﺔ‬ ‫ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﻭﻳﺔ‪ ..‬ﺇﺫﻥ ﻛﻴﻒ ﺗﹸﻤﺸﻲ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺔ؟ ﻣﺴـﺘﺤﻴﻞ‪ .‬ﺇﺫﻥ ﻓـﻼ‬ ‫ﺑ‪‬ﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺨﺘﺎﺭ‪ ،‬ﺍﺧﺘﺮﻧﺎ ﺃﻛﺒﺮ ﻭﺍﺣﺪﺓ ﺣﺘﻰ ﺗﹸﺤ‪‬ﻞﱠ ﺑﺄﺳﺮﻉ ﻭﻗﺖ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪ ،‬ﻫﻞ ﻻ ﺯﹺﻟﺖﹶ ﻣﺆﻣﻨـﺎﹰ ﺑﻤﺸـﺮﻭﻉ‬ ‫ﻭﻃﻨــﻲ ﻋــﺎﺑﺮ ﻟﻠﻄﻮﺍﺋــﻒ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫــﻞ ﻻ ﺯﹺﻟــﺖﹶ ‪‬ﻣﺼ‪‬ــﺮﺍﹰ ﺃﻭ ﻣﺆﻣﻨــﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﺸﻌﺎﺭﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺭ‪‬ﻓ‪‬ﻌ‪‬ﺖﹾ ﻗﹶﺒﻞ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ؟ ﻟﻮ ﺗﺠﺮﺑﺔ ‪٢٠١٨‬؟ ‪٥٩‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺖ ﺗﹶﻌﻠـﻢ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺳـﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﻭﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﻫـﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻌﺎﻃﻔـﺔ ﻣﻌـﻲ ﻫـﻲ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻠـﺔ ﺍﻷﻛﺒـﺮ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻛﺎﻥ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻜﻦ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﹸﻟ‪‬ﺢ‪ ‬ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﻜـﻮﻥ‪ ‬ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﻣﻨـﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﻣﻨـﻲ‪ ،‬ﻣـﻊ ﺫﻟـﻚ ﺗﻨﺎﺯﻟـ ﹸﺖ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﻣﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﺗﺪﺭﻱ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﺠﻠﺲ ﺃﻋﻠﻰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺩﻭﻟـﺔ ﻋﻤﻴﻘـﺔ ﻭﻛـﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺬﻳﻦ ﻣﻌﻪ ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﺟﻌﻠﻬـﻢ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﺠﻠـﺲ ﺍﻷﻋﻠـﻰ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﺍﻟــﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‪ ..‬ﻳﺸــﻬﺪ ﺍﷲ ﻻ ﺃﻋــﺮﻓﻬﻢ ﻭﻻ ﻳﻌﺮﻓــﻮﻧﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤــﺪﺭﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﺎ‪‬ﻣﻮﻥ ﻟﺴـﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﻭﺍﻷﺣـﺮﺍﺭ ﻛﻠﻬـﻢ ﻗﻠﻌـﻮﻫﻢ ﻭﺃﺧﺮﺟـﻮﻫﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻠﺔ ﺍﻷﻛﺒﺮ ﻭﺃﺳﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻓﻌﻞ ﻛـﻞ ﺷـﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻣـﻊ ﺫﻟـﻚ‬ ‫ﻗﻠﺖ‪ :‬ﻻ ﻟﻠﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ ﻻ ﻟﻠﺘﺤﺰﹼﺏ ﻻ ﻟﻠﻌ‪‬ﺮﻗﻴـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣﺴـﺘﻤﺮ ﻋﻠـﻰ‬ ‫ﻫــﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸــﻲﺀ ﺇﻟــﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﻤــﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﹶﻟــ ‪‬ﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﺴــﺘﻘﺮ ﺍﻟﻌــﺮﺍﻕ ﻣــﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﺴﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺒﻠﺔ ﻟﻠﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻱ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﻛﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭﻱ ﻗـﺪ ﺍﻗﺘﻨـﻊ ﻓـﻲ ﻓﺘـﺮﺓ ﻣـﺎ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺤـﺎﻟﻒ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫‪ ٦٠‬ﺍﻟﻤﺪﻧﻴﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﻮﻃﻨﻴﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﻴﻮﻋﻴﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﻟﺪﺧﻮﻝ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ‪..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻧﻈـﺮ ﺃﺃﻗـﻮﻝ ﻟـﻚ‬ ‫ﺷﻴﺌﺎﹰ؟ ﻟﻮ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺪﻋﻢ ﻟﻬﺆﻻﺀ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﺍﻟﺤﺎﻟﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻣـﻦ ‪١٠/١‬‬ ‫ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻳﻮﻣﻨـﺎ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻓـﻲ ﺃﻳ‪‬ـﺎﻡ ﺍﻟﺨﻴﻤـﺔ ﺍﻟﺨﻀـﺮﺍﺀ ﻭﺃﻳ‪‬ـﺎﻡ‬ ‫ﺍﻻﻋﺘﺼﺎﻣﺎﺕ ﻟﻜﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﺍﻵﻥ ﺷـﻜﻼﹰ ﺁﺧـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﻔﺴـﺎﺩ‬ ‫ﻗﺪ ﺍﻧﺘﻬﻰ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺷﹶـﻜﱠﻜﹾﺘﹸﻢ ﺑﻨـﺎ ﻭﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴـﺮﻭﻥ ﹶﺷـ ﱠﻜﻜﹾﻮﺍ ﺑﻨـﺎ ﺑﺄﻧﱠﻨـﺎ‬ ‫ﻧﹸ ‪‬ﺴﻘﱢﻂ ﺧﺼﻮﻣﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﱠﻬﺎ ﺧﻼﻓﺎﺕ ﺳﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ ﻭﺧﻼﻓـﺎﺕ ﻃﺎﺋﻔﻴـﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﻟﺪﻳﻪ ﻣﻐﺎﻧﻢ ﺧﺎﺻﺔ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻮ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟـﺪﻋﻢ ﺍﻟـﺪﻭﻟﻲ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟــﺪﺍﺧﻠﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻌــﺎﻃﻒ ﻣﻌﻨــﺎ ﻓــﻲ ﺣﻴﻨﻬــﺎ ﻫﻜــﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻟﻨﺠﺤﻨــﺎ‬ ‫ﻭﻟﻜﺎﻧﺖ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟﺔ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺟـﺎﻟﺲ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺨﻴﻤـﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﺃﻧﺘﻈﺮ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﻳﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮ ﻭﻻ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻟﺴﺖﹸ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﻛﻠﱠﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻌـﺪﺩ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻻ ﺑـﺄﺱ ﺑـﻪ ﻓـﻲ ﻭﻗـﺖ‬ ‫ﺍﻻﻋﺘﺼﺎﻣﺎﺕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻻﻋﺘﺼـﺎﻣﺎﺕ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜﻦ ﺃﺛﻨﺎﺀ ﻭﺟﻮﺩﻱ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺨﻴﻤﺔ‪ ،‬ﺗﻴـﺎﺭﻳﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭ ﻷﻥ ﻋـﺪﺩﻩ ‪٦١‬‬

‫ﻻ ﺑﺄﺱ ﺑﻪ ﺗﺮﺍﻩ ﻻ ﺑﺄﺱ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﺍﻟﻔﺮﺷﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻮﺩﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣـﺔ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﻣﻮﺟﻮﺩﺓ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻋﺘﺼﺎﻡ ‪ ٢٠١٦‬ﻟﻢ ﻳﻜـﻦ ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭﻳﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﻓﻘﻂ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﺴـﺒﺔ ‪ %٩٥‬ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫‪ %٩٩,٩‬ﺗﻴﺎﺭﻳﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻛﺬﺏ ﻋﻠﻴﻚ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻛـﺬﺏ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻧﻔﺴـﻲ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻻ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﻳﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘﻰ ﻫﺆﻻﺀ ﺍﻟﺬﻳﻦ ﻳﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﻭﻥ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﻥ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ‪ %٧٥‬ﺍﻟـﻰ ‪ %٨٥‬ﻣـﻨﻬﻢ ﺗﻴـﺎﺭﻳﻴﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﺿـﺢ؟‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﺑﻌﻀﹸﻬﻢ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻣﻘﺘﻨﻌﻮﻥ ﺑـﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺧﺮﺟـﻮﺍ ﻋﹼﻨـﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺑﻌﻀﹶـﻬﻢ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘﻨﻌﻮﻥ ﺑﻲ ﻭﻳ‪‬ﺤﺒﻮﻧﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﻀﹸﻬﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺐ ﺍﻟﺴﻴ‪‬ﺪ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ ﻓﻘـﻂ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺸﻬﻴﺪ ﺍﻷﻭﻝ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﻬﻴﺪ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻧﻲ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﻀﹸﻬﻢ ﺍﺧﺘﻠﻔـﺖ ﺃﻓﻜـﺎﺭﻫﻢ‬ ‫ﺇﻟﻰ ﻋﻠﻤﺎﻧﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻨﻬﻢ ﺻﺪﺭﻳﻴﻦ ﻭﺃﺗﺤـﺪﻯ ﺃﻛﺒـﺮ ﺷـﺨﺺ ﺃﻥ‬ ‫ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻻ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻷﺻﻞ ﻫﻢ ﺻﺪﺭﻳﻮﻥ؟‬ ‫‪٦٢‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻷﺻــﻞ‬ ‫ﺻﺪﺭﻳﻮﻥ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﻔﺎﺟﺄ ﹶﺕ ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﻧﺴﺤﺎﺏ ﺃﻧﺼﺎﺭﻙ‪ ‬ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺴـﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻌﺪﺩ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺑﻘﻲ ﻓﻲ ﺳﺎﺣﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻢ ﻧﹶﺴـﺤﺒﻬﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻗﹸﻠﻨﺎ ﻟﻬﻢ ﺳﻨﺄﻣﺮ ﺑﺎﻻﻧﺴﺤﺎﺏ ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﺗﹶﻨﺴﺤﺒﻮﺍ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﻨﺴﺤﺒﻮﺍ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟـﻢ ﻳﻨﺴـﺤﺒﻮﺍ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﻘﻂ ﻛﻤﺎ ﻗﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻚ ﺟﺮﺓ ﺃﺫﻥ ﺑﺴﻴﻄﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﻨﺴﺤﺒﻮﻥ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻫﻢ ﺑﺎﻟﺤﻘﻴﻘﺔ ﺑ‪‬ﻘﻮﺍ ﻭﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﻨﺴﺤﺒﻮﺍ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺳـ ‪‬ﺮﺍﹰ ﻗﹸﻠﻨـﺎ ﻟﻬـﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﺑﻘﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﺃﺧﺮﺟﻨﺎ ﺑﻌﻀﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺒﺎﻥ ﺻﻮﺭﻳﺎﹰ ﻟﻜﻲ ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﻗﻨـﺎﺓ ﺍﻟﺤـﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﺗﺼﻮ‪‬ﺭﻫﺎ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻟﻚ ﺍﻧﺴﺤﺎﺏ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻤﺴﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﻴﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﺤﺎﻟﻔﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺒﻠﺔ ﻟﻠﺘﻴﺎﺭ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻱ ﺃﻭ ﻟﻠﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ‪٦٣ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻬـﻼﹰ! ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟـﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺃﺗﺪﺧﻞ ﺑﺎﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﺣﺮﺍﻡ ﻋﻠﻲ ﺇﻟﻰ ﻳﻮﻡ ﺍﻟﺪﻳﻦ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﻗﺎﺋﻤﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻛﺸـﺨﺺ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﺗﺪﺧﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﺗﹶﺪﻋﻢ ﻗﺎﺋﻤﺔ ﻭﻻ ﺷﻲﺀ ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻴﻞ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻬﺎﺋﻴﹰﺎ‪ ..‬ﻧﻬﺎﺋﻴﺎﹰ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻭﻻ ﻣﺸﺮﻭﻉ ﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﺟﺪﻳﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻳﻜﻔـﻲ ﺯﻫﻘـﺖ‬ ‫ﻧﻔﺴـﻲ‪ ..‬ﻳﻜﻔـﻲ‪ ..‬ﻳﻮﻣﻴـﹰﺎ ﻫـﻲ‪‬؟ ﺃﺿـﻒ ﺇﻟﻴـﻪ ﻛﻨﱠـﺎ ﻛـﻞ ﺃﺭﺑـﻊ‬ ‫ﺳـﻨﻮﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻵﻥ ﺻـﺎﺭﺕ ﻛـﻞ ﺳـﺘﺔ ﺍﺷـﻬﺮ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﻭﺗﻌـﺎﻝ‬ ‫ﺃﺧﺮﺟﻨﻲ ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻮﺭﻃﺔ‪ ..‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﻲ ﻣﺰﺍﺝ ﻫﻜﺬﺍ ﺃﺷﻴﺎﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺒﺮﻟﻤﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﻘﺎﺩﻡ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻓﻴﻪ ﻗﺎﺋﻤﺔ ﺗﺎﺑﻌﺔ ﻟﻚ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻓﻴـﻪ‬ ‫‪ ٦٤‬ﻭﻟﻴﺤﺪﺙ ﻣﺎ ﻳﺤﺪﺙ‪..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﺑﺪﺍﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺑﺪﹰﺍ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﻗﺮﺍﺭ ﺧﺮﻭﺝ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺴﺎﺣﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻗﻠﺘﻬـﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺗﻌﺎﻝ ﻟﻲ ﺑﻌﺪ ﻛﻢ ﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ‪ ..‬ﺳﻨﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺃﺭﺑﻌﺔ ﺳﻨﻮﺍﺕ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪) :‬ﺳـﻴﺪ( ﻳﺒـﺪﻭ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻘـﺮﺍﺭ ﺧـﺮﻭﺝ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﻤﻠﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﺸـﺨﺺ ﻧﻌـﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭﻳﻮﻥ ﺑﻤـﺎ ﻫـﻢ ﺗﻴـﺎﺭ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺃﺭﺍﺩﻭﺍ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ‪‬ﻳـﺪﺧﻠﻮﺍ ﻓﻴـﺪﺧﻠﻮﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺣﻘﱡﻬـﻢ ﻋﺮﺍﻗﻴـﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻛﻤـﺎ ﺍﻥ ﺍﻟﻤـﺪﻧﻴﻴﻦ ﻣـﻦ ﺣﻘﹼﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻛﻤـﺎ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻮﻋﻴﻴﻦ ﻣﻦ ﺣﻘﱡﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻛﻤﺎ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺑـﺎﻗﻲ ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ ﻣـﻦ ﺣﱠﻘﻬـﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻛﺬﻟﻚ ﻫﻢ ﻣـﻦ ﺣﻘﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻛﺸـﺨﺺ ﻳﻜﻔﻴﻨـﻲ ﻟﺤـﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﻥ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺗﺤﻤﻞ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻭﻛﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ ﻟﻪ ﺻﺒﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭﻳﻮﻥ ﺣﻴﻦ ﻳﺪﺧﻠﻮﻥ ﺳﻴﺒﻘﻮﻥ ﻳـﺄﺗﻤﺮﻭﻥ‬ ‫ﺑﺄﻣﺮ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ ﻭﺑﺎﻟﺘﺎﻟﻲ ﻧﻔﺲ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ‪٦٥ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫـﻢ ﺃﺣـﺮﺍﺭ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻳﺮﻳﺪﻭﻥ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﺄﺗﻤﺮﻭﺍ ﺑﺄﻣﺮﻱ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻋﺮﻑ ﻛﻴﻒ ﺃﺟـﺮ‪ ‬ﺁﺫﺍﻧﻬـﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﻳﺄﺗﻤﺮﻭﻥ ﺑﺄﻣﺮﻱ ﻓﺘﺤﻤ‪‬ﻠﻮﻫﻢ ﺃﻧﺘﻢ ﻭﻗﻮﺗﱠﻬﻢ ﻭﺣﺒ‪‬ﻬﻢ ﻟﻠﻮﻃﻦ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻨﻨﺘﻘﻞ ﺇﻟﻰ ﻣﺤﻮﺭ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ ﺍﻷﻣﻴﺮﻛﻲ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺬﻱ‬ ‫ﻭ‪‬ﻋﺪﺕﹸ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ‪ ‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻧﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﺑﻪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ‪ ..‬ﺟـﺰﺍﻙ ﺍﷲ‬ ‫ﺧﻴﺮﹰﺍ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﷲ ﻳﺤﻔﻈﻚ‪ ..‬ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ ﺍﻷﻣﻴﺮﻛﻲ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ‬ ‫ﺃﻣﻨﻴــﹰﺎ ﻭﻓﻨﻴــﹰﺎ ﻫﻨــﺎﻙ ﺭﺃﻱ ﻳﻘــﻮﻝ ﺑــﺄ ‪‬ﻥ ﻭﺟــﻮﺩﻫﻢ ﺿــﺮﻭﺭﻱ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﻣﻨﻴﺔ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﺓ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻏﺎﻳـﺔ ﺍﻵﻥ ﻟﺤﻤﺎﻳـﺔ ﺍﻟﺒﻠـﺪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫﺬﺍ ﺟﺎﻧﺐ‪ ،‬ﺃﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺠﺎﻧﺐ ﺍﻵﺧﺮ ﻫﻢ ﻟﻴﺴﻮﺍ ﻣﺤﺘﻠﹼﻴﻦ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻫـﻢ ﺣﺎﻟﻴـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺤﻤـﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﺒﻠـﺪ؟! ﻫـﻢ ﺍﻟـﺬﻳﻦ ﻳﻘﺼـﻔﻮﻧﻨﺎ ﻭﻳﻀـﺮﺑﻮﻧﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻛﻴـﻒ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺤﻤﻮﻧﻨﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺘﻚ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺮﺃﻱ‪..‬‬ ‫‪٦٦‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﻨـﺘﻢ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘﻨﻌﻴﻦ ﺑﺎﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻃﺔ ﻭﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣـﺆﻫ‪‬ﻠﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬـﻞ ﺍﻻﺣـﺘﻼﻝ‬ ‫ﺣﺎﻟﻴﹰﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﻤﻴﻨﺎ ﺃﻡ ﻳﺆﺫﻳﻨﺎ؟ ﻫـﻢ ﺍﻓﺘﻌﻠـﻮﺍ )ﻋﺮﻛـﺔ()‪ (١‬ﻣـﻊ ﺇﻳـﺮﺍﻥ‬ ‫ﻭ)ﻋﺮﻛﺔ( ﻣﻊ ﻏﻴﺮﻫﺎ ﻭﺟﻌﻠﻮﺍ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﺳﺎﺣﺔ ﻟﻠﺼﺮﺍﻉ ﻭﺻـﺎﺭﻭﺍ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹾﺼ‪‬ـﻔﻮﻥ ﻭﺻـﺎﺭﻭﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹾﺼﹶـﻔﻮﻥ ﻓﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺍﺳـﺘﻔﺪﻧﺎ؟ ﺳـﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ‬ ‫ﺑﻮﺟﻮﺩ‪‬ﻫﻢ ﻭﻟﻢ ﻳﺘﺤﺴﻦ‪ .‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺟﻴـﺪﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺟﻴﺪﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠﻴﺨﺮﺝ ﺍﻻﺛﻨﺎﻥ ﻻ ﺑﺄﺱ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻟﻤﻘﺎﺑـﻞ ﻫﻨﺎﻟـﻚ ﺭﺃﻱ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺧـﺮﻭﺝ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻴـﺔ ﻗـﺪ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﻴـﺪ ﺩﺍﻋـﺶ ﻣـﻦ ﺟﺪﻳـﺪ ﺑﻌـﺪ ﺳـﺘﺔ‬ ‫ﺃﺷﻬﺮ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺑـﺄﺱ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ ﻟﺪﺍﻋﺶ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ ﻛﻴﻒ؟‬ ‫‪٦٧‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻧﺰﺍﻉ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺟـﺎﻫﺰﻭﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻴﻌﻮﺩﻭﺍ ﻭﺳ‪‬ﺘﺮﻯ ﻣﺎﺫﺍ ﺳ‪‬ﻨﻔﻌ‪‬ﻞﹸ ﺑﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻟﺠـﺎﻫﺰ؟ ﺗﹶﻘﺼـﺪ ﺍﻟﺠـﻴﺶ ﺟـﺎﻫﺰ ﺃﻡ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪‬؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺸـﻌﺐ ﻛﻠـﻪ‬ ‫ﺟﺎﻫﺰ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻱ ﻳ‪‬ﺼـﻴﺮ ﻛﻠـﻪ ﺩﻣـﺎﺀ ﻷﺟـﻞ ﺗﺨﻠﻴﺼـﻜﻢ‬ ‫ﻣﻦ ﺩﺍﻋﺶ‪ ،‬ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻭﺍﺣﺪ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻫﻞ ﺗﻮﺟـﺪ ﻗـﺪﺭﺓ ﻋﺴـﻜﺮﻳﺔ ﻟﻤﻮﺍﺟﻬـﺔ‬ ‫ﺩﺍﻋﺶ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺍﻧﺴﺤﺒﺖ ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻴﺔ ﺑﺂﻟﻴﺎﺗﻬﺎ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪) :‬ﻭﺳـﻔﺔ()‪ (١‬ﻣـﺎ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺗﻌﻠﻤﻪ ﻋﻦ ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ؟ ﺃﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹾﺪ‪‬ﺭ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺩﺍﻋﺶ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﺪﻳﻪ ﻏﻄـﺎﺀ ﺟـﻮﻱ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟﺪﻳـﻪ‬ ‫ﺗﻘﻨﻴﺎﺕ ﺣﺪﻳﺜﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ( ﻳﻌﺒﺮ ﻋﻦ ﺃﺳﻔﻪ ﻭﺣﺰﻧﻪ ﻟﻠﺨﻮﻑ‬ ‫‪٦٨‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺘﺰﺍﻳﺪ ﻣﻦ ﺩﺍﻋﺶ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗـﺔ ﻟـﻚ‬ ‫ﻧﺤﻦ ﻧﺘﺪﺑﺮ ﺃﻣﺮﻧﺎ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗﺔ ﻟﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺗﻌﻬﺪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺍﻟﻐﻄـﺎﺀ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻮﻱ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ ﺃﺳﺘﻄﻴ ‪‬ﻊ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﺣﺼﻞﹶ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﺳﺘﻄﻴﻊ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺣﺼـﻞﹶ‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﻏﻄﺎﺀ ﺩﻭﻟﻲ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﺴﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺍﻟﺤﺼـﻮﻝ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻏﻄـﺎﺀ ﺩﻭﻟـﻲ؟ ‪‬ﻣـﻦ‪‬‬ ‫ﺃﻳﻦ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗـﺔ ﻟـﻚ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﻲ ﺣﻴﻨﻬﺎ ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﺗﺼﺮ‪‬ﻑ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﺃﺑﻠﻐﺘﻢ ﺍﻟﺰﻋﺎﻣﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺴ‪‬ﻨﻴﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻳـﺔ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ‬ ‫ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻣﻌﺘﺮﺿﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻗﺮﺍﺭ ﺇﺧﺮﺍﺝ ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﺟﻨﺒﻴﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺃﺭﺍﺩﺕ‬ ‫ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻟﻘﻴـﺎﺩﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﺘﺸـﺪﺩﺓ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﹸﺗﺮﺟـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻔﺨﺨﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻓﻤﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ‪ ،‬ﻧﺤﻦ ﻧﹸﺮﺟﻊ ﺷﻴﺌﺎﹰ ﺁﺧﺮ‪٦٩ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺳﺘﹸﺮﺟﻌﻮﻧﻪ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺖ ﺗﻌﺮﻑ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﻌﻮﺩ ﺳﻴﺎﺭﺓ ﺍﻟﺒﻄﺔ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛـﺎﻧﻮﺍ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪﻭﻥ ﺇﺭﺟﺎﻉ ﺍﻟﻤﻔﺨﺨﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻓﺴـﻨﻌﻴﺪ ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻷﺷـﻴﺎﺀ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻠﻌﻠﻢ ﺟﻴﺶ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ ﻣ‪‬ﺠ‪‬ﻤ‪‬ﺪ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣﻠـﻎﹴ‪ ،‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ )ﺑﺸـﺨﺎﻃﺔ()‪(١‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﺣﺪﺓ ﻳﺬﻭﺏ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ ﺃﻥ ‪‬ﻳﻌـﻮﺩ ﻣـﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻧﻴـﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺑـﺄﻱ‬ ‫ﻭﻗﺖ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ‪ ..‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﹸﻓﻜﺮ ﻛﺜﻴﺮﺍﹰ ﺑﺈﺭﺟﺎﻋﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟‬ ‫‪٧٠‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺑﻌﻠﺒﺔ ﺛﻘﺎﺏ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻻ ﺗﺮﺟـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻔﺨﺨـﺎﺕ ﻭﻻ ﻳﺮﺟـﻊ ﺩﺍﻋـﺶ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎﺫﺍ ﻧﻔﻌـﻞ؟ ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻳﻄﻠـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺘﻞ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬﺬﺍ ﻋﻤﻠﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺃﺳ‪‬ﺴ‪‬ـﺖﹸ ﺟـﻴﺶ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ؟ ﻫـﻞ‬ ‫ﻷﺟﻞ ﺃﻥ ﻳﺪﺍﻓﻊ ﻋﻨﻲ ﺃﻡ ﻟﻴ‪‬ﺪﺍﻓﻊ ﻋﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻮ ﻋﻤﻠﻴﹰﺎ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﻧﹶﻌﺘﺒـﺮﻩ ﻣﺤﺘـﻞ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻗـﺪ‬ ‫ﺟﺎﺀ ﺑﺪﻋﻮﺓ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴﺔ؟ ﻋﻤﻠﻴﺎﹰ ﻫﻮ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻣ‪‬ﺤﺘﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﻛﹸﻨﺖﹸ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺣﻴﻦ ﻗﹸـﺪ‪‬ﻣ‪‬ﺖﹾ ﻟـﻪ ﺩﻋـﻮﺓ؟ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣﺤﺴـﻮﺏ ﻋﻠـﻰ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗﺔ ﻟـﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻫﻢ ﺭﺃﻳﻬﻢ ﺍﻟﺨﺎﺹ ﺑﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻟﻢ‪ ‬ﺃﻛﻦ ﻗـﺪ ﺩﻋﻮﺗـﻪ ﻭﻟـ ‪‬ﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺩﻋﻮﻩ ﻭﻟ ‪‬ﻦ ﺃﺩﻋﻮﻩ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺣﻀﺮﺗﻚ ﺗﻌﺘﺒﺮﻩ ﻣﺤﺘﻞ؟ ‪٧١‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﺤﺘﻞ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻳﻮﻣﻨـﺎ‬ ‫ﻫﺬﺍ ﻭﺇﻟﻰ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﻭﺇﻟﻰ ﻣﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺤﻴﺎﺓ ﻣﺎ ﺩﺍﻡ ﺑﺎﻗﻴـﹰﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻣ‪‬ـﺎ ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺧﺮﺝ ﻓﻬﺬﺍ ﺷﻲﺀ ﺁﺧﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﻛﺬﻟﻚ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟـﻼﺯﻡ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﺳﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﻓﻴﻬﺎ ‪ ٣٠‬ﺃﻟﻔﹰﺎ ﺃﻭ‪ ٤٠‬ﺃﻟﻔﺎﹰ ﺷﺨﺺ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ‬ ‫ﺳﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﻭﺇﻧﻤﺎ ﻟﻌﺐ )ﺯﻋﺎﻃﻴﻂ(‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺴﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﺗﻜﻮﻥ ﺳﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ‬ ‫ﺣﻘﻴﻘﻲ ﻭﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﻣﺤﺘﻠﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺘﻞ ﻻ ﻧﹸﺮﻳﺪ ﺳﻔﺎﺭﺗﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻋﻼﻗـﺔ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﺑﺈﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﻗﺪ ﺗﹶﻐﻴـﺮﺕ ﺑﻌـﺪ ﺣﺎﺩﺛـﺔ ﻣﻘﺘـﻞ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻗﺎﺳﻢ ﺳﻠﻴﻤﺎﻧﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﺃﺑﻮ ﻣﻬﺪﻱ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﻨﺪﺱ ﺍﻷﺧﻴﺮﺓ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺣﻤﻬﻤﺎ ﺍﷲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺭﺣﻤﻬﻤﺎ ﺍﷲ‪ ..‬ﻳﺒـﺪﻭ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻟـﻚ ﻋﻤﻘـﺎﹰ ﺃﻛﺒـﺮ‬ ‫ﻟﺪﻭﺭ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﺑﻌﺪ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺣﻠـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌـﺪ ﻣﺮﺣﻠـﺔ‬ ‫ﺳﻠﻴﻤﺎﻧﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻬﻨﺪﺱ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺖ ﻫﻜـﺬﺍ‬ ‫‪ ٧٢‬ﺗﺮﻯ؟‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟــﻴﺲ ﺃﻧــﺎ ﻓﻘــﻂ ﻣــﻦ ﺃﺭﻯ ﻫﻜــﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤــﺎ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺍﻗﺒﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻵﺧـﺮﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﻫـﻞ ﻫﻨﺎﻟـﻚ ﺩﻭﺭ ﻣﻌـﻴﻦ ﻟﻠﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﻨﺴــﻴﻖ ﻣــﻊ ﺇﻳــﺮﺍﻥ‪ ،‬ﻣــﻊ ﺍﻟﺠﻤﻬﻮﺭﻳــﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻹﺳﻼﻣﻴﺔ ﻓﻲ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺩﻭﻟـﺔ ﺟـﺎﺭﺓ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺃﹸﻧﺴ‪‬ﻖ ﻣﻊ ﺍﻟﺴـﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ ﻭﻣـﻊ ﺇﻳـﺮﺍﻥ ﻭﻣـﻊ ﺗﺮﻛﻴـﺎ‪ ،‬ﺟﻴﺮﺍﻧﹸﻨـﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﺪﻕ ﺍﻟﺒﺎﺏ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺟﺎﺭﻙ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻧﺪﻕ ﺑﺎﺑﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﻥ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﺃﺩﻕ ﺍﻟﺒﺎﺏ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻫﻞ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺣﺮﺍﻡ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻻ ﺃﺩﻕ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺒــﺎﺏ ﻋﻠــﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺘــﻞ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺇﻳــﺮﺍﻥ ﺃﻭ ﻏﻴﺮﻫــﺎ ﺯﺍﺩﺕ ﻗﻠــﻴﻼﹰ‬ ‫ﺑﺘﺪﺧﻼﺗﻬﺎ ﻓﺴﺄﻗﻮﻝ ﻟﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻣﺎﻣﻬﻢ ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﻟﻬﻢ ﺇﻧﱠﻜـﻢ ﺗـﺪﺧﻠﺘﻢ‬ ‫ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﺯﺍﺋﺪ‪ ،‬ﻟﺴﺖﹸ ﺧﺎﺋﻔﺎﹰ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ‪٧٣ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﺑﻠﱠﻐﺘﹶﻬ‪‬ﻢ ﻣﺮ‪‬ﺓ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺑﻠﱠﻐـﺘﹸﻬ‪‬ﻢ ﻣﺌـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤـﺮﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣـﺮ‪‬ﺓ ﺃﻭ ﻣـﺮ‪‬ﺗﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻟﻬـﻢ ﻭﺑﻠﻐـﺖ ﺍﻟﺴـﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻦ‬ ‫ﺳـﻠﻤﺎﻥ ﻭﻟـﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﻬـﺪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ﺃﺑﻠﻐﺘﹸـﻪ‪ ،‬ﺑﻠﱠﻐـﺘﹸﻬﻢ ﺟﻤﻴﻌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﺗﺮﻛﻴﺎ ﻗﻠ ﹸﺖ ﻟـﻪ‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺖ ﻣ‪‬ﺤﺘـﻞ ﻟﺠـﺰﺀ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻷﺭﺍﺿـﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴـﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﻳﻔﺘﺮﺽ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﹶﺨﺮﺝ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺧﺎﻑ ﻣـﻨﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﻘـﺮ ﺩﺍﺭﻫـﻢ ﻭﻟـﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﻫﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻣﻦ ﺧﻼﻝ ﺗﻐﺮﻳﺪﺓ‪ ،‬ﺑﻞ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺟﺎﻟﺲ ﻣﻌﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺪﻭﺭ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺒﻞ ﻟﻠﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﻟﻠﺘﻨﺴـﻴﻖ‬ ‫ﻣﻊ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ‪ ،‬ﻫﻮ ﺍﺳﺘﻴﻌﺎﺏ ﻛﻞ‪...‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻣﻊ ﺇﻳـﺮﺍﻥ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻨﺴﻴﻖ ﻣﻊ ﺍﻟﺴﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻣـﻊ ﺗﺮﻛﻴـﺎ ﺃﻭ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻟﻜﻮﻳـﺖ‪ ..‬ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺗﹸﺼﺮ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺘﻨﺴﻴﻖ ﻣﻊ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﻓﻘﻂ‪ ..‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻭ‪‬ﻝ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺃﺫﻛﺮ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﺑﻜـﻞ‬ ‫‪ ٧٤‬ﺍﻟﻠﻘﺎﺀ‪ ،‬ﺻﺎﺭ ﻟﻨﺎ ﺳﺎﻋﺔ ﻷﻭﻝ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﺗﻜﻠـﻢ ﻋﻨـﻚ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻓﻘﻂ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻗﻮﻝﹸ ﻟ ‪‬ﻚ ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺳـﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺫﹶﻫﺒـ ﹸﺖ‬ ‫ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﺴﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻟﻢ ﺗﹶﻘﹸﻞ ﻣﺎﺫﺍ ﻋﻨﺪ ‪‬ﻙ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺴﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻟﺪﻱ‪ ‬ﺳﺆﺍﻝ ﻋـﻦ ﺍﻟﺰﻳـﺎﺭﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺑﻴـﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜ ‪‬ﻦ ﻓﻴﻤﺎ ﻳﺘﻌﻠﻖ ﺑﺈﻳﺮﺍﻥ‪ ،‬ﺗﹶﻘﻮﻝﹸ ﻟﻲ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺑـﺪﺃﺕﹶ‬ ‫ﺑﺈﻳﺮﺍﻥ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻷﻧﱠﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﺠﺎﺭﺓ ﺍﻟﻜﺒﻴﺮﺓ ﻭﺍﻷُﻡ ﺍﻟﺤﻨﻮﻧﺔ!!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺧﹶـﻼﺹ ﺃﻧـﺖﹶ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﺪ‪‬ﺣ‪‬ﺘﹶﻬﺎ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺃﻗﺼﺪﻩ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﻟﺪﻳﻬﺎ ﺃﺫﺭﻋﺎﹰ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺘﻘﺪ‪ ‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﻟﺪﻳﻬﺎ ﺃﺫﺭﻋﹰﺎ ﻣﺴﻠﺤﺔ‪٧٥ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻜـﻞ ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺫﺭﻉ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻦ ﻟﺪﻳﻪ ﺃﺫﺭﻉ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺴـﻌﻮﺩﻳﺔ ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﺫﺭﻉ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﺪﻳﻬﺎ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﺮﻛﻴـﺎ ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﺫﺭﻉ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻌﻘﻮﻟﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ ﻃﺒﻌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﻴﺔ ﻟﻠﺪﻭﻝ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻛﻠﻬـﺎ ﻃﺒﻌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫‪ ٧٦‬ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﻴﺔ ﻟﻠﺪﻭﻟﺔ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﻴﺔ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﻃﺮﺣﺖ ﺗﺼﻮﺭﺍﹰ ﻣﻌﻴﻨﹰﺎ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ ﺧـﻼﻝ‬ ‫ﺗﻮﺍﺟﺪﻙ‪ ‬ﻫﻨﺎﻙ‪..‬؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣﺎﻟﻴﹰﺎ ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺗـﺪﺧﻞ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﺔ ﺃﺻـﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣﻌﻬـﻢ ﻭﻻ ﺑـﺎﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﺳﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ‪ ..‬ﺣﺘﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺣﻮﻡ ﺍﻟﺤﺎﺝ ﻗﺎﺳﻢ ﻛﺎﻥ )ﻳﺘﺨﺒ‪‬ﻞ()‪ (١‬ﻣﻨﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻌﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﻞ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻗﺎﺳـﻢ ﺳـﻠﻴﻤﺎﻧﻲ ﻫـﻞ ﺻـﺎﺭ‪‬‬ ‫ﺣﺪﻳﺚﹲ ﻋﻦ ﻭﺿـﻊ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﺧـﻼﻝ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺣﻠـﺔ؟ ﻭﻛﻴـﻒ‬ ‫ﺳﻴﺘﻢ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻃﻲ ﻣﻌﻬﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻌـﻲ ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﺻﺎ ‪‬ﺭ ﻣﻊ ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻷﻃﺮﺍﻑ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﻴﺔ ﻧﻌـﻢ‪ ،‬ﺇﻧﱠﻬـﻢ ﻻ ﻳﺮﻳـﺪﻭﻥ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺘﺪﺧﻠﻮﺍ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺃﹸﺧﺮﻯ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻢ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪﻭﻥ‪ ‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﹶﺪﺧﱠﻠﻮﺍ؟‬ ‫‪٧٧‬‬ ‫)‪(١‬ﻛﻠﻤﺔ ﺑﺎﻟﻠﻐﺔ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺪﺍﺭﺟﺔ ﻭﺗﻌﻨﻲ ﻳﺠﻦ ﺟﻨﻮﻧﻪ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻗـﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻻ ﻧﹶﺘـﺪﺧﻞ‬ ‫ﺑﺼــﻮﺭﺓ ﻣﺒﺎﺷــﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺣــﻴﻦ ﺗﺤﺘﺎﺟﻮﻧﻨــﺎ ﻗﻮﻟــﻮﺍ ﻟﻨــﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺣــﻴﻦ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﹶﺤﺘﺎﺟﻮﻧﻨﺎ ﺃﻧﺘﻢ ﺩﻳﺮﻭﺍ ﺃﹸﻣﻮﺭﻛﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻓﻌﻼﹰ ﺧﻼﻝ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺸـﻬﺮﺍﻥ‬ ‫ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟﺜﻼﺛﺔ ﺧﹶﻔﱠﺖ ﺍﻟﺘﺪﺧﻼﺕ ﻛﺜﻴﺮﺍﹰ ﻭﺑﻨﺴﺒﺔ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ‪ ،%٧٠‬ﺗﻮﺟﺪ‬ ‫ﻟﻜﻦ ﻗﻠﱠﺖ ﻛﺜﻴﺮﺍﹰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﺃﻳﻦ ﺑﺎﻟﻀﺒﻂ؟ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺳـﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ ﻛﹸﹼﻨـﺎ ﻧﺴـﺄﻝ‬ ‫ﺇﻳﺮﺍﻥ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﺭﺃﻳﻜﻢ ﺑﺮﺋﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧﻲ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﻻ ﺃﺗﺼﻮﺭ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻢ ﺗﹶﺤﺪ‪‬ﺙ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺗﺼﻮﺭ ﻟﺤﺪ ﺍﻵﻥ‬ ‫ﻟـﻢ ﺗﹶﺤـﺪﺙ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟـﺪﻟﻴﻞ ﻣﺤﻤـﺪ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣـﻮﺍﻓﻘﻴﻦ ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ‬ ‫ﺃﺻ ﹰﻼ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻢ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻣﻮﺍﻓﻘﻴﻦ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻟﻨﻘـﻞ‬ ‫‪ ٧٨‬ﺗﻔﺎﺟﺄﻭﺍ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣـﻮﺍﻓﻘﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻟﻴﺴـﻮﺍ ﺭﺍﻓﻀـﻴﻦ ﻟـﻪ‪،‬‬

‫ﻟﻜــﻨﱠﻬﻢ ﺗﻔﺎﺟــﺄﻭﺍ ﺑﻄــﺮﺡ ﻫﻜــﺬﺍ ﺍﺳــﻢ‪...‬ﻭﻻ ﻳﻌﺮﻓﻮﻧــﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟــﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﺴﺄﻟﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﺃﺧﺒﺮﻭﻫﻢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻓﻼﻥ ﺳﻴﻜﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻓﻘﺎﻟﻮﺍ ﻻ ﻧﹶﻌﻠﻢ ﺑـﻪ‬ ‫ﺃﺻﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻫﻮ ﻟﻴﺴﻮﺍ ﺑﺎﻷﺟﻮﺍﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻢ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﺪﻳﻬﻢ ﺭﻏﺒﺔ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﹶﺪﺧﻞ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ ﺣﺎﻟﻴـﹰﺎ ﻟـﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻷﻥ ﺩﻭﻟــﺘﻬﻢ ﺗﻌﺮﺿـﺖ ﻟــﺒﻼﺀﺍﺕ ﺳـﻤﺎﻭﻳﺔ ﻭﺃﻳﻀــﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﻟــﺒﻼﺀﺍﺕ ﺳﻴﺎﺳــﻴﺔ ﺿــﺪ‪‬ﻫﻢ ﻛﺜﻴــﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻓﻴﻔﺘــﺮﺽ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻘﹶﻮ‪‬ﻣــﻮﺍ‬ ‫ﺩﻭﻟﺘﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﻟﺪﻳ ‪‬ﻚ ﻧﻴ‪‬ﺔ‪ ،‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪ ،‬ﻟﺰﻳﺎﺭﺓ ﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫ﺍﻟـﺪﻭﻝ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺑﻴـﺔ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻣﺴـﺘﻘﺒﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﻤـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﻘﺮﻳـﺐ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺇﺟﺮﺍﺀ ﺣﻮﺍﺭﺍﺕ ﻣﻊ ﺯﻋﺎﻣﺎﺕ ﻣﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﺩﻭﻝ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻮﺍﺭ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺩﻭﻝ ﺍﻟﺠﻮﺍﺭ ﺃﻭ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺩﻭﻝ ﺍﻟﺠﻮﺍﺭ‪٧٩ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺗﺼـ ‪‬ﻮﺭ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺻـﺎﺭﺕ ﻣﺼـﻠﺤﺔ ﻟﻠﺸـﻌﺐ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ ﺳـﺄﺫﻫﺐ ﻷﻱ‬ ‫ﺩﻭﻟﺔ ﻛﺎﻧﺖ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﻈﻮﺭ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻣﻤﻜﻦ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻳﻮﻡ ﻭﻳﻮﻣـﺎﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺃﻭ ﺷﻬﺮ ﻭﺷﻬﺮﺍﻥ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟـﺪﻱ ﻫﻜـﺬﺍ ﻣﻮﻋـﺪ ﻣﺤـﺪ‪‬ﺩ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻨﻨـﻲ‬ ‫ﺟـﺎﻫﺰ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻓﻴﻬـﺎ ﺧﺪﻣـﺔ ﻟﻠﺸـﻌﺐ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻨﻨـﻲ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﺗﺼﻮﺭ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﺍﻵﻥ ﺷﻲﺀ ﺃﻭ ﻣﻮﺭﺩ ﻣ‪‬ﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤـﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﻮﺣﻴـﺪﺓ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘــﻲ ﺫﹶﻫﺒــ ﹸﺖ ﻟــﻴﺲ ﻷﺟــﻞ ﺍﻟﺸــﻌﺐ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗــﻲ ﻭﻻ ﺿــﺪ‪‬ﻩ‪،‬‬ ‫)ﻓﺎﺗﺤﺔ()‪ (١‬ﺩﻭﻟﺔ ﺍﻟﻜﻮﻳﺖ ﺣﻴﻦ ﺣﺪﺙﹶ ﺗﻔﺠﻴﺮ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﺴـﺠﺪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺫﻫﺒ ﹸﺖ ﻟﺘﻌﺰﻳﺘﻬﻢ ﻭﺭﺟﻌﺖ‪ ،‬ﻓﻘـﻂ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻭﺻـﺎﺭ ﺃﻳﻀـﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﺣﺪﻳﺚ ﻋﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﻛﻠﱠﻪ ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﹸﺟﻴ‪‬ـﺮﻩ ﻟﺼـﺎﻟﺢ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫‪‬ﻳﻜﻦ ﻟﺼﺎﻟﺢ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﻓﻼ ﺃﺗﺤﺮ‪‬ﻙ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٨٠‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺍﻟﻌﺰﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺃﻗﻴﻢ ﻓﻲ ﺣﻴﻨﻬﺎ‪...‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻋﻮﺩ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﻟﻠﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ ﺍﻷﻣﻴﺮﻛـﻲ ﻭﻃﺮﻳﻘـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻣﻞ ﺑﺎﻟﻨﺴﺒﺔ ﻟﻠﺒﺮﻟﻤﺎﻥ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺎﻟﻨﺴـﺒﺔ ﻟﻠﺪﻭﻟـﺔ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴـﺔ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ‬ ‫ﻋﺎﻡ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻭ ﻳﺘﺼﻞ ﺑـﺮﺋﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳﺪ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻪ ﻛﺬﺍ ﻭﻛﺬﺍ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪‬؟ ﻭﺯﻳﺮ ﺍﻟﺨﺎﺭﺟﻴﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﺯﻳـﺮ ﺍﻟﺨﺎﺭﺟﻴـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻲ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﺗﺪﺧﻼﺕ ﻣﺮﻓﻮﺿﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﺗﻌﺘﺒﺮﻫﺎ ﺗﺪﺧﻼﺕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﺮﻓﻮﺿـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺗﻜ ‪‬ﺮﺭﺕ ﺃﻭ ﺯﺍﺩﺕ ﻗﺪ ﻻ ﻧﹶﺴﻜﺖ‪ ،‬ﺳﻨﺘﻜﻠﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻞ ﺗﺮﻳـﺪ ﺣﻀـﺮﺗﻚ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥﹶﻧﻘﻄـﻊ ﺍﻟﻌﻼﻗـﺔ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﺃﻣﺮﻳﻜﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﹸﺤ‪‬ﺪ‪‬ﺩ ﺍﻟﻌﻼﻗﺔ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﺃﻣﺮﻳﻜﺎ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻛﻤﺤﺘﻠﺔ‪٨١ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﻧﻮﻉ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺪﻳﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﺨﺮﺝ ﻛﻤﺤﺘﻠـﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺗﺒﻘﻰ ﺳـﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﺣﺎﻟﻬـﺎ ﺣـﺎﻝ ﺍﻟﺴـﻔﺎﺭﺍﺕ ﺍﻷُﺧـﺮﻯ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻣـﻞ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻤ‪‬ﺜﻞ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺴﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴﺔ ﻓﻲ ﺃﻣﺮﻳﻜﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﺘـﺮﺽ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ‪ ٣٦‬ﺃﻟﻔـﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﻭ ‪ ٤٠‬ﺃﻟـﻒ ﺷـﺨﺺ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺗﹸﻘﹶﻠﱠـﻞ ﺍﻷﻋـﺪﺍﺩ ﺑﻜﻠﻴﻬﻤـﺎ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻣـﻞ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻤ‪‬ﺜﻞ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ ﻳﻌﺎﻣ‪‬ﻠﻮﻧﻨﺎ ﻛـ)ﺯﻋﺎﻃﻴﻂ( ﻭﺻﻐﺎﺭ ﺗﺤﺖ ﺃﻳﺪﻳﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺣﻴﻨﺬﺍﻙ ﻳﺴﺘﻤﺮ ﺗﺤﺪﻳﺪ ﺍﻟﻌﻼﻗﺔ ﻫﺬﺍ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺘﻠﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻣﺤﺘﻠﺔ ﻓﻠﺪﻳﻨﺎ ﺧﻴﺎﺭﺍﺕ ﺃﹲﺧﺮﻯ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻧﺘﻌﺎﻣـﻞ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺘﻞ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻱ ﻣﺤﺘﻞ ﺁﺧﺮ‪ ،‬ﺇﺳﺮﺍﺋﻴﻞ‪ ،‬ﺃﻱ ﺩﻭﻟﺔ ﻣ‪‬ﺤﺘﻠﺔ ﻻ ﻧﻘﺒـﻞ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﻭﺗﹶﻔﹾﺘﹶﺢ‪ ‬ﺳﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﻋﻨﺪﻧﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓـﻲ ﻳـﻮﻡ ‪ ١/٢٤‬ﺣـﻴﻦ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﺍﻟﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ‬ ‫‪ ٨٢‬ﻗﺎﺋﻤﺔ‪ ،‬ﺣﻀﺮﺗﻚ ﻗﺪ ﺃﺻﺪﺭﺕﹶ ﺑﻴﺎﻧﺎﹰ ﻓﻴﻪ ﻣﺠﻤﻮﻋﺔ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻨﻘـﺎﻁ‪،‬‬

‫ﻃﺎﻟﺒ ﹶﺖ ﺑﻌﺪﻡ ﺍﺳﺘﻬﺪﺍﻑ ﺍﻟﺴﻔﺎﺭﺓ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻴـﺔ ﻭﺇﻳﻘـﺎﻑ ﺍﻟﻌﻤـﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﺴﻜﺮﻱ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺣﻴﻦ ﺍﺳﺘﻨﻔﺎﺩ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻕ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺪﺑﻠﻮﻣﺎﺳـﻴﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫﻞ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﻃﺮﻗﺎﹰ ﺳﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ ﻭﺩﺑﻠﻮﻣﺎﺳﻴﺔ ﻗﺎﺋﻤﺔ ﻟﻐﺎﻳﺔ ﺍﻵﻥ ﺣﺴـﺐ‬ ‫ﻣﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﹺﺩ‪ ‬ﺇﻟﻰ ﻣﺴﺎﻣﻌﻚ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻧﺸـﻐﻠﻨﺎ ﻗﻠـﻴﻼﹰ‬ ‫ﺑﺘﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣﺸﻜﻠﺔ ﺗﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺤﻤـﺪ ﷲ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻓﺮﺍﺩ ﺍﻟﺤﺸﺪ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺒﻲ ﻭﻓﺼﺎﺋﻠﻪ ﺗﻌﺎﻭﻧﻮﺍ ﻣﻌـﻲ ﻭﺟـﺰﺍﻫﻢ ﺍﷲ‬ ‫ﺧﻴﺮﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﻻ ﻓﺈﻧﱠﻬﻢ ﻛﺎﻧﻮﺍ ﻳﺴﺘﻄﻴﻌﻮﻥ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﺼﻌ‪‬ﺪﻭﺍ ﺿﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻣﺮﻳﻜﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﺑﺒـﺎﻟﻲ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﻳﻜﻔﻴـﻪ ﺣـﺮﺏ‪ ،‬ﻧﺴـﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻧﹸﺨــﺮﺝ ﺃﻣﺮﻳﻜــﺎ ﺑﻄــﺮﻕ ﺃﹸﺧــﺮﻯ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟــﻢ ﻧﺴــﺘﻄﻊ ﺑــﺎﻟﻄﺮﻕ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻷُﺧﺮﻯ ﻓﻤﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻧﹸﺤﺎﺭﺑﻬﻢ ﻣـﻦ ﺟﺪﻳـﺪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﻧﱠـﺎ ﷲ ﻭﺇﹼﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﺇﻟﻴﻪ ﺭﺍﺟﻌﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﺳﻴﺎﺩﺓ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﻟﺪﻳﻨﺎ ﻣﻬﻤﺔ ﺟﺪﹰﺍ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﺳـﺘﺒﺪﺃ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﻘﺎﻟﻴـﺔ ﺑـﺈﺟﺮﺍﺀﺍﺕ‬ ‫ﺇﻧﻬﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ‪٨٣ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻤﻔـﺮﻭﺽ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻫﺬﻩ ﻣﻦ ﺷﺮﻭﻃﻬﺎ ﺃﺣﺴﻨﺖ‪ ،‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﺃﻧﺖ ﺫﻛﱠﺮﺗﹶﻨﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻡ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺑﻌﺪﻫﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻻﺛﻨـﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻤ‪‬ﻬ‪‬ـﺪ ﻭﺫﺍﻙ ‪‬ﻳ ﹾﻜ ‪‬ﻤـﻞ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫـﺬﺍ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳﺪﺓ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﻻ ﺗﹸﺴﹼﻘﻂ ﺍﻟﺴﺎﺑﻖ‪ ،‬ﺑﻞ ﺗﹶﺒﻨﻲ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﹸﻜﹾﻤ‪‬ﻞ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺣﺴـﻨﺖ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺗﹸ ﹾﻜ ‪‬ﻤـﻞ‪ ..‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﻌـﺎﺩﻱ ﺃﺣـﺪﻫﻢ ﺍﻵﺧـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﺤـﺰﺏ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧـﻲ‪ ،‬ﻳـﺄﺗﻲ ﺑﻌـﺪ‪‬ﻩ ﺣـﺰﺏ ﺁﺧـﺮ ﻓﻴﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﻌـﺎﺩﻱ ﺫﺍﻙ‬ ‫ﻭﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ ﻳﻔﻌـﻞ ﺷـﻴﺌﹰﺎ ﺁﺧـﺮ‪ ..‬ﻻ‪ ..‬ﻭﺇﻧﻤـﺎ ﺃﺣـﺪ‪‬ﻫﻢ ﻳ‪ ‬ﹾﻜ ‪‬ﻤـﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﺧﺮ‪ ..‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﻣﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﺣـﺪﺓ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻷﺷـﻴﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﹸﻃﹺﺮ ‪‬ﺣـﺖ ﻓﻨﻴـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﻋﺴﻜﺮﻳﺎﹰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻲ ﻗﺪ ﻳﺴﺘﻤﺮ ﻟـﺜﻼﺙ ﺃﻭ ﺃﺭﺑـﻊ‬ ‫‪ ٨٤‬ﺳﻨﻮﺍﺕ ﻣﻘﺒﻠﺔ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹸﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻜﻤ‪‬ﻞ ﺍﻟﺘﺪﺭﻳﺒﺎﺕ‪..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺟـﻴﺶ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ‬ ‫ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ )ﺑﺸﺨﺎﻃﺔ( ﻳ‪‬ﻔﺘﺢ ﺗﺠﻤﻴﺪﻩ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﻻ ﺗﹶﻘﺒﻠﻮﻥ ﻋﻦ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺜﻼﺛـﺔ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺭﺑﻌﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﻼ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺇﻃﻼﻗﺎﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﻃﻼﻗﺎﹰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﻟﺪﻳﻜﻢ ﺣ‪ ‬ﺪ ﻣﻌﻴﻦ ﻟﻨﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺣﺎﻟﻴـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻧﹸﺮﺍﻋﻲ ﻇـﺮﻭﻑ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﻫـﺪﺃ ﺍﻟﻮﺿـﻊ ﻓﺴ‪‬ـﻨﻌﺮﹺﻑ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﻧﹶﺘﺼـﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﻟﻠﻌﻠـﻢ ﻻ ﺯﻟﻨـﺎ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻧﺨﺎﻑ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﻭﻥ ﻟﻠﻤﻮﺍﺟﻬﺔ؟ ‪٨٥‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺍﺟﻬـﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻮﺕ‪ ..‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﻧﹸﺮﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻀﺮ‪‬ﺭ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﻭﺍﷲ ﻻ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﻫﺬﺍ‪ ..‬ﺷﻌﺒﻪ ﺟ‪‬ﺰﻉ ﻣﻦ ﺣﺮﺏﹴ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺣﺮﺏ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺮﺃﻱ ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻱ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻨﻲ ﻟﻐﺎﻳﺔ ﺍﻵﻥ ﻗﺎﺋﻢ ﻋﻠﻰ‬ ‫ﺿﺮﻭﺭﺓ ﺗﻮﺍﺟﺪ ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﻴﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻟـﺬﻟﻚ ﺍﻵﻥ‬ ‫ﺑﻌﺜﺖ ﺭﺳﺎﻟﺔ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻷﺥ ﻣﺴﻌﻮﺩ‪ ،‬ﻭﻗﹸﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻚ‪ :‬ﻣـﻦ ﻗﻨﺎﺗـﻚ‪ ،‬ﺃﱠﻧـﻪ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻔﹾﺘﹶﺮ‪‬ﺽ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻻ ﻧﹶﺘﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﻣﻊ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻨﻔﻌﻮﻥ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﻟﻴﺲ ﺗﻌﺎﻃﻒ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺮﺟﻞ ﻳ‪‬ﺼﹶﺪ‪‬ﺭ ﺃﻣـﻮﺭ ﻗـﺪ‬ ‫ﹶﺗﻜﻮﻥ ﻭﺍﻗﻌﻴﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻷﺭﺽ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﺜﻼﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺜ ﹰﻼ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻗﺪﺭﺗﻨﺎ ﺍﻟﻌﺴﻜﺮﻳﺔ ﻻ ﺗﺴـﺘﻄﻴﻊ‬ ‫ﺣﻤﺎﻳﺔ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺼﺤﺮﺍﺀ ﻭﺍﻟﺤﺪﻭﺩ ﺍﻟﻤﻤﺘﺪﺓ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﺘﻌـﺎﻭﻥ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻭﻫـﻮ‬ ‫‪ ٨٦‬ﻭﻏﻴﺮﻩ‪..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻠﻴﺒﺪﺃ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻭﻥ ﻭﺗﹶﻜﹾﺘﹶﻤ‪ ‬ﹶﻞ ﺍﻟﺮﺅﻳﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺑﻮﺟـﻮﺩ‬ ‫ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ ﻭﺑﻴﺸﻤﺮﻛﹶﺔ ﻭﺗﺮﻳﺪ ﺗﻘﻮﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻃﺔ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ‬ ‫ﺳـﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺍﻟﺴـﻼﻡ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺗﻘﻮﻳـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺇﺿـﻌﺎﻑ ﻟﻠﺠـﻴﺶ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻃﺔ‪ ،‬ﺗﹸﺮﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻧﹶﺤﻞﱠ ﺍﻟﺒﻴﺸﻤﺮ ﹶﻛﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺤﺸﺪ ﺍﻟﺸـﻌﺒﻲ ﻭﻛـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻭﻧﹸﺠ‪‬ﻤ‪‬ﺪﻩ ﻭﻧﹸﻘﹶﻮﻱ ﺍﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻃﺔ؟ ﺟﺎﻫﺰ ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻠﺤﻈـﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺣﻞﱠ ﺍﻟﺴﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﻓﻘﻂ ﻭﻳﺒﻘﻰ ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻗﻮﻥ! ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤـﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﻻ ﺃﻓﻌﻠﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﺁﺧﺮﻫﻢ ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﺣﻞﹼ ﺍﻟﺴﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺣﻠﻮﺍ ﻫ‪‬ـﻢ ﺍﻟﺒﻴﺸـﻤﺮ ﹶﻛﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺤﺸﺪ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺒﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﻟﺒﻴﺸﻤﺮﻛﹶﺔ ﺗﻌﺘﺒﺮﻫﺎ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻢ ﺣﺮﺱ ﺇﻗﻠﻴﻢ ﺑﺎﻟﺪﺳﺘﻮﺭ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻠﻴﺸـﻴﺎ‪ ..‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﻀﻄﺮﻧﻲ ﻟﺘﻜﺮﺍﺭﻫﺎ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻟﺜﺔ ﻟﻜﻲ ﻻ ﻳﺰﻋﻞ‪ ،‬ﻣﺎ ﺩﺍﻣـﻮﺍ ﻟﻴﺴـﻮﺍ ‪٨٧‬‬

‫ﺟﻴﺸﺎﹰ ﻭﻻ ﺷﺮﻃﺔ ﻓﻬﻢ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎ‪ ،‬ﺑﺼﻔﺔ ﺭﺳـﻤﻴﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﺭﺳـﻤﻴﺔ‬ ‫ﻫﺬﺍ ﺃﻣﺮ ﺁﺧﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺪﺳﺘﻮﺭ ﻳﻄﻠﻖ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﺎ ﺗﺴﻤﻴﺔ ﺣﺮﺱ ﺍﻹﻗﻠﻴﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣـﺮﺱ ﺍﻹﻗﻠـﻴﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻃﺔ‪ ،‬ﺷـﻴﻌﻲ ﻳﺤﻤـﻲ ﺍﻹﻗﻠـﻴﻢ ﻭﻛـﺮﺩﻱ ﻳﺤﻤـﻲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻨﻮﺏ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﺤﻤـﻲ ﺍﻟﻜـﺮﺩﻱ ﺍﻷﻛـﺮﺍﺩ‬ ‫ﻭﻳﺤﻤﻲ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﻲ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻨﻲ ﻳﺤﻤﻲ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﻩ ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ‬ ‫ﺩﻭﻟﺔ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺧﺮﻁ)‪!(١‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻘﻲ‪ ‬ﻟﺪﻱ ﺩﻗﻴﻘﺘﺎﻥ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻠﻘﺎﺀ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﺗﻤﻨﻰ ﺃﻥ‬ ‫ﻳﻄﻮﻝﹶ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪ ،‬ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺭﺟﻊ ﻓﻲ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺪﻗﻴﻘﺘﻴﻦ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻣﺴﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮﻳﻦ ﺑﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﺧﺮﻯ‪ ،‬ﻫـﻞ ﻻ ﺯﺍﻝ ﺍﻟﺰﻋـﻞ ﻣﺴـﺘﻤﺮﺍﹰ‬ ‫ﺑﻴﻨﻜﻤﺎ‪ ،‬ﺑﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﻭﺑﻴﻦ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ؟‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﹶﻛﺬﺏ‪ ،‬ﺃﻱ ﺍﻧﻬﻢ ﻳﻄﻠﻘﻮﻥ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﺎ ﺗﺴﻤﻴﺎﺕ ﺭﺳﻤﻴﺔ ﻭﻟﻬـﺎ ﻣﺴـﺘﺤﻘﺎﺕ‬ ‫‪٨٨‬‬ ‫ﻣﺎﻟﻴﺔ ﻭﻫﻲ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ ﺗﺎﺑﻌﺔ ﻷﺣﺰﺍﺏ ﻭﻏﻴﺮ ﺫﻟﻚ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺑﺎﻟﻨﺴـﺒﺔ ﻟـﻲ‬ ‫ﻛﺸﺨﺺ ﻻ ﺃﺯﻋـﻞ ﻋﻠـﻴﻬﻢ ﻧﻬﺎﺋﻴـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫـﻢ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻓﻌﻠـﻮﺍ ﻣـﺎ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺳﺘﹶﻄ‪‬ﻊ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻓﻌﻠﻪ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﻘﺪﻳﻤـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻓﻌﻠـﻮﺍ ﻭﺗ ‪‬ﺤﻘﱠﻘـﺖ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻄﺎﻟـﺐ‪ ،‬ﺷﹸـﺠﻌﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﺷـﻬﺪﺍﺅﻫﻢ ﺷـﻬﺪﺍﺋﻲ ﻭﻟـﻦ‬ ‫ﺃﻧﺴـﺎﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﺩﻣـﺎﺅﻫﻢ ﺩﻣـﺎﺋﻲ‪ ،‬ﺇﺧـﻮﺗﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺃﻧﺼﹶـﺤ‪‬ﻬ‪‬ﻢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻻ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺰﻳﺪﻭﺍ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﻨﻒ ﻷﺟﻞ ﺳﻤﻌﺘﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻷﺟـﻞ ﺍﻟﺘﻌـﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ‬ ‫ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻧﺠﺎﺡ ﺛﻮﺭﺗﻬﻢ ﺑﺴﻠﻤﻴﺘﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺭﻏﻤـﺎﹰ ﻋﻨـﻲ ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘﻰ ﻭﺇ ‪‬ﻥ ﻋﺎﻗﺒﺘﹸﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻭﺇﻥ ﺣـﺪﺙﹶ ﺻ‪‬ـﺪ‪‬ﺍﻡ ﻗﻠـﻴ ﹰﻼ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﺃﻋﺘﺒﺮ ﻧﻔﺴﻲ ﺃﺑﺎﹰ ﻻ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺫﻟـﻚ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺗـﺪﺧﻞﹶ ﺑﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺩﺧﹸ ﹶﻞ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺨﻂ‪ ،‬ﻷﻧﱠﻨـﻲ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺩ‪‬ﺧﻠـﺖﹸ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﺨـﻂ‬ ‫ﺳﺘﹸﺼﺒﺢ ﺗﻴ‪‬ﺎﺭﻳ‪‬ﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪﻫﺎ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﹸﺼﺒﹺﺢ ﺗﻴ‪‬ﺎﺭﻳ‪‬ـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺘ‪‬ﻴـﺎﺭ ﻗـﺎﻡ‬ ‫ﺑﻤﺎ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻭﻓﻌﻠـﻪ ﻭﺃﻛﺜـﺮ‪ ،‬ﺟـﺰﺍﻫﻢ ﺍﷲ ﺧﻴـﺮﹰﺍ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠﻴﻔﻌ‪‬ـﻞ ﺍﻟﺸـﻌﺐ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻗﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟ‪‬ﺘﹶﺨﺮﺝ ﺍﻟﻌﺸﺎﺋﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻜﻦ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺑﺎﻹﺟﺒـﺎﺭ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺣـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻓﻘﻨﺎﻫﻢ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻹﺿﺮﺍﺏ‪ ،‬ﺍﻹﺿـﺮﺍﺏ ﺍﻟﻄـﻮﻋﻲ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗـﺄﺗﻲ‬ ‫ﺗﻀﺮﺏ ﺍﻷُﺳﺘﺎﺫ ﻭﺍﻷُﺳﺘﺎﺫﺓ ﻭﺍﻟﻄﺎﻟﺒـﺔ ﻭﺗﻘـﻮﻝ ﻟﻬـﻢ‪ :‬ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ ‪٨٩‬‬

‫ﺗﹶﺨﺮﺟﻮﺍ ﻭﻻ ﺗﻠﺘﺤﻘـﻮﺍ ﺑﺎﻟـﺪﻭﺍﻡ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳـﺪ ﻳـﺪﺍﻭﻡ ﻳـﺪﺍﻭﻡ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻠﺘﺤﻖ ﺑﺎﻟﺪﻭﺍﻡ ﻻ ﻳﺬﻫﺐ ﻟﻠﺪﻭﺍﻡ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻬـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﺎﺳـﺒﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻳ‪‬ﺴـﻤ‪‬ﻴﻪ ﺃﻧﺼـﺎﺭﻙ‬ ‫ﺑـ)ﻭﺯﻳـﺮﻛﻢ( ﺻـﺎﻟﺢ ﻣﺤﻤـﺪ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ‪ ..‬ﺑﺎﻟﻤﻨﺎﺳـﺒﺔ‪ ..‬ﻣـﻦ ﻫـﻮ‬ ‫ﺻﺎﻟﺢ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ؟ ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ ﺇﱠﻧـﻪ‬ ‫ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ ﻣﺘﻨﻜﺮ ﺑﻬﺬﺍ ﺍﻻﺳﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﻟﻴﺲ ﺑﺎﻟﻀـﺒﻂ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫﻲ ﺻـﻔﺤﺘﻲ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺒﺪﺍﻳـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺗﹶﻌﻠـﻢ ﺇﻧﱠﻨـﻲ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟـﺪﻱ ﺭﻏﺒـﺔ‬ ‫ﺑﻬﻜﺬﺍ ﺃﻣﻮﺭ‪ ،‬ﻓﺄﻋﻄﻴﺘﹸﻬﺎ ﻟﺸﺨﺺ ﻳ‪‬ﺪﻳﺮﻫﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫــﻞ ﺗﹶﺴــﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺘﻮﺳــﻂ ﻟــﻲ ﻣــﻊ ﻫــﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺨﺺ ﻟﻜﻲ ﺃﻋﻤﻞ ﻣﻌﻪ ﻟﻘﺎﺀً؛ ﻷﻥ‪ ‬ﺻـﺎﻟﺢ ﻣﺤﻤـﺪ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ‬ ‫ﺷﺨﺺ ﻣﻬﻢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺼـﺤﻚ‪ ‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﹶﻌﻤﻞ ﻣﻌﻪ ﻟﻘﺎﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟‬ ‫‪٩٠‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪) :‬ﺷـﻌﺒﻮﺛﻲ()‪،(١‬‬ ‫ﻓﺘﹶﺠ‪‬ﻨﱠﺒ‪ ‬ﻪ ﺃﻓﻀﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺻﺎﻟﺢ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻲ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﺭﻓـﻊ‬ ‫ﺷﻌﺎﺭ )ﻣﺎﻛﻮ ﻭﻃﻦ ﻣﺎﻛﻮ ﺩﻭﺍﻡ( ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺒﺪﺍﻳﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻗﹸﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟـﻚ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻔﺮﺽ ﻟﻔﺘﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﻜﻮﻥ ﻣﻔﺘﻮﺣـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭﻻﹰ ﻃﻮﻋﻴـﺎﹰ ﻭﻟﻔﺘـﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺪﻭﺩﺓ‪ ،‬ﻭﻗﻠﻨـﺎ ﺍﻻﺑﺘﺪﺍﺋﻴـﺔ ﺍﺳـﺘﺜﻨﻮﻫﺎ‪ ،‬ﺍﻻﺑﺘﺪﺍﺋﻴـﺔ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻣـﺎﺫﺍ ﺗﻔﻌـﻞ ﺑـﻪ؟ ﻭﺃﺳـﺎﺗﺬﺗﻬﻢ ﻣﺤـﺪﻭﺩﻭﻥ ﺃﻳﻀـﹰﺎ‪ ،‬ﻳﺪﺭﺳـﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﺻﺒﺎﺣﺎﹰ ﻭﻳ‪‬ﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﻭﺍ ﻣﻌـﻚ‪ ‬ﻋﺼـﺮﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎ ﻣﺸـﻜﻠﺔ؟ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺗﹸـﺪ‪‬ﻣ‪‬ﺮﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﺜﻘﺎﻓـﺔ؟ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺗﹸـﺪ‪‬ﻣ‪‬ﺮﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﻌﻠـﻢ؟ ﻋـﻼﻡ‪‬؟ ﻭﺍﻟﻨـﺎﺱ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪﻭ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ـﻨﺠﺢ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻫـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣﻈﺎﻫﺮﺍﺗـﻚ ﻗﺎﺋﻤـﺔ‪ ..‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﻟـﻮ‬ ‫ﺗﹶ‪‬ﺒﻘﻰ ﺛﻼﺛﻴﻦ ﺳﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺑ‪‬ﻘﻴـﺖﹾ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳـﺪﻳﻦ ﻓـﻼ ﻳﺤﻘﻘـﻮﻥ‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻣﻔﺮﺩﺓ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻜﻼﻡ ﺍﻟـﺪﺭﺍﺝ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗـﻲ ﻭﻫـﻲ ﺗـﺪﻝ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺸﺎﻛﺴـﺔ‬ ‫‪٩١‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺮﺍﻭﻏﺔ‪.‬‬

‫ﻟﻚ ﺃﻱ ﻣﻄﻠﺐ‪ ،‬ﺛﻢ ﺃﻧﺖﹶ ﺗﹶﻘﻄﻊ ﻃﺮﻳﻖ ﻓﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﻀـ ‪‬ﺮ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻲ؟‬ ‫ﺍﺫﻫﺐ ﻭﺍﻗﻄﻊ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﺷﻴﺌﹰﺎ ﺁﺧﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎﺫﺍ ﻳﻘﻄﻊ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﹸﺴﻤﻴﻬﺎ ﺗﺤﺮﻳﻀﺎﹰ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪) :‬ﻭﺍﷲ(! ﻟﻨﻔﻬﻢ ﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﺃﺷـﻴﺎﺀ ﻫـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﻔﻬﻤﻮﻧﻬـﺎ ﻭﻳﻌﻠﻤـﻮﻥ ﺑﻬـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﻓﹶﻌ‪‬ﻠﻮﻫـﺎ ﻓﻌـﺎﺩ‪‬ﻭﻫﻢ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ‪ ،‬ﺣـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻘﻄﻌﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻕ ﻻ ﻳﺄﺗﻴﻬﻢ ﺃﺣﺪ‪ ،‬ﻳﺘﺮﻛﻮﻧﻬﻢ ﻳﻘﻄﻌﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻕ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻷﻧﱠﻬﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﻠﻤﻮﻥ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﺳ‪‬ﻴ‪‬ﻘ‪ ‬ﱠﻞ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺃﻣ‪‬ﺎ ﺣﻴﻦ ﺣﺎﺻـﺮﻭﺍ‬ ‫)ﺑﻨـﮕـﺎﹰ()‪ ،(١‬ﻣﺎﺫﺍ ﻓﻌﻠﻮﺍ ﺑﻬﻢ؟ )ﻃﺸﺮﻭﻫﻢ()‪ ..(٢‬ﻭﺍﻓﻬﻤﻬـﺎ ﺃﻧـﺖ‪..‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻴﺲ ﺳﺮﻗﺔ ﺑﻨﻮ ‪‬ﻙ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻗﺒﻞ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﹸﻧﻬﻲ‪ ..‬ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ ﺍﻟﺨﻄـﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﺼـﻌﻴﺪﻳﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹾﹺﺒﻞ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻱ ﻓﻲ ﺣﺎﻝ ﻟﻢ ﺗﹶﻤ‪‬ﺮ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻣﺼﺮﻑ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٩٢‬‬ ‫)‪ (٢‬ﻗﻤﻌﻮﻫﻢ ﺑﺸﺪﺓ‪.‬‬

‫ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻫ‪‬ﺪ‪‬ﺩ‪‬ﺕﹶ ﺑﻬﺎ ﺟﻨﺎﺑـﻚ ﺃﻭ ﻟ ‪‬ﻮ ‪‬ﺣـﺖﹶ ﺑﻬـﺎ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ ﺃﻭ ﺑـﺂﺧﺮ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫﻞ ﺳﺘﻜﺘﻔﻲ ﻓﻘﻂ ﺑﺎﻻﻋﺘﺼﺎﻡ ﺣﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﺨﻀـﺮﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﺃﻡ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ‬ ‫ﺧﻄﻮﺍﺕ ﺗﺼﻌﻴﺪﻳﺔ ﺃﺧﺮﻯ ﺑﻬﺬﺍ ﺍﻻﺗﺠﺎﻩ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺃﺗـﻰ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ‬ ‫ﺑﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ ﻓﺴﺄﻗﻒ ﺿـﺪﻩ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﺫﺍ ﺭ‪‬ﻓﹶﻀـﺖ ﺍﻟﻜﺘـﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺴــﺘﻘﻠﺔ ﻭﺃﻟﹶﺤ‪‬ــﺖﹾ ﻋﻠــﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼــﺔ ﻓﺴــﺄﻗﻒ ﺿــﺪ‪‬ﻫ‪‬ﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻫﻜﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺃﺩﻋﻢ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﺩﻋـﻢ ﺷـﻲﺀ ﺍﺳـﻤﻪ ﺳـﻴﺎﺩﺓ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌــﺮﺍﻕ ﻭﺳــﻴﺎﺩﺓ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺔ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻴــﺔ ﺑﺎﺳــﺘﻘﻼﻟﻴﺘﻬﺎ ﻋــﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳـﺪ ﺩﻭﻟـﺔ ﻋﻤﻴﻘـﺔ ﻣـﺮﺓ ﺃﹸﺧـﺮﻯ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺣ‪‬ﻘﻘﻬـﺎ‬ ‫ﻋﻼﻭﻱ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﻣﻌﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ ﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﻘﻘﻬﺎ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﺿـﺪ‪‬ﻩ‪ .‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟــﻮ ﺻــﺎﺭ‪ ‬ﺷــﺨﺺ ﻣــﻦ ﺍﻟﺤﻨﺎﻧــﺔ ﺭﺋﻴﺴــﺎﹰ ﻟﻠــﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﻭﻋﻤــﻞ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ ﻓﺴﺄﻋﺮﻑ ﻛﻴﻒ ﺃﺗﺼﺮ‪‬ﻑ ﻣﻌـﻪ‪ ..‬ﻫـﻞ ﺗﹶﻌﻠـﻢ ﺃﻧﱠﻨـﻲ‬ ‫ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﻟﻢ ﺃ ‪‬ﺭ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ؟ ﻻ ﺃﺗﺼﻮﺭ ﺃﻧﱠﻨﺎ ﺟﻠﺴﻨﺎ ﺳﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺪﺙ ﺍﺗﺼﺎﻝ ﺑﻴﻨﻜﻤﺎ ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﻟﺘﻜﻠﻴﻒ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺍﺗﱠﺼﻠﺖﹸ ﺑﻪ‪٩٣ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﻟﺘﻜﻠﻴﻒ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ‪ ،‬ﺃﺭﺩﺕﹸ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫)ﺃﺭﻭﺯﻩ( ﺃﻋﺮﻑ‪ ‬ﻭﺿﻌﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻴﻒ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺭﺃﻳﻚ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﻮﺟـﺪ ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ‬ ‫ﺿﻐﻮﻃﺎﺕ ﻗﻮﻳﺔ ﺟﺪﹰﺍ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣـﺎ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﺍﺳﺘﺸـﻔﻴﺘﻪ ﻣﻨـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻣـﻦ ﺃﺟﻮﺑﺘـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺷﺨﺼﻴﺘﻪ‪ ،‬ﻣﻦ ﻭﺿﻌﻪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫﻮ ﻛﺸـﺨﺺ ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﺭﻏﺐ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻫﻞ ﺳﻴﻨﺠﺢ ﺇﺩﺍﺭﻳﹰﺎ ﻣﻊ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻀﻐﻮﻃﺎﺕ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺣﺰﺍﺏ ﻭﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ؟ ﺍﷲ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺨﻄــﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﺼــﻌﻴﺪﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺒﻠــﺔ ﺑﺎﻟﻨﺴــﺒﺔ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮ‪ ،‬ﻫـﻞ ﺳـﺘﻜﺘﻔﻲ ﻓﻘـﻂ ﺑﺘﻄﻮﻳـﻖ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﻄﻘـﺔ ﺍﻟﺨﻀـﺮﺍﺀ‬ ‫‪ ٩٤‬ﺑﺎﻻﻋﺘﺼﺎﻡ‪ ،‬ﺃﻡ ﺇ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﺃﻣﺮﺍﹰ ﻣﺎ؟‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺗﺮﻳـﺪﻭﻥ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﺨﺪﻣﺔ‪ ..‬ﺟﺎﻫﺰﻭﻥ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺘﻢ ﺑﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﺗﻔﻜﺮﻭﻥ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﻢ ﻟـﺪﻱ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻻ ﺗﺼــﻴﺮ ﻣﺤﺎﺻﺼــﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺔ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﺘــﺮﺽ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺨﺘﺎﺭﻫــﺎ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ‪ ،‬ﻳ‪‬ﻔﺘﺮﺽ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﻣ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺇﻥ ﺻـﺎﺭﺕ ﻓﺄﻧـﺎ ﺃﻣﺸـﻲ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻣﺎ ﺻﺎﺭﺕ ﺃﺻﹶﻌ‪‬ﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺁﺳـﻒ‬ ‫ﺟﺪﹰﺍ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻮﻗـﺖ ﺍﻧﺘﻬـﻰ‪ ،‬ﻛﻨـﺖﹸ ﺃﺗﻤﻨـﻰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﺳـﺘﻤﺮ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻚ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻟﺨﺪﻣﺔ ﺗﺸـﺮﻓﻨﺎ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﻟﻴﺲ ﺁﺧﺮ ﻟﻘﺎﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻜﺮﺭ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻧﻴﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﻥ ﺷـﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﺄﺧﺬﻧﺎ ﺍﻟﻜﻮﺭﻭﻧﺎ ﻭﻧﺴﺘﻤﺮ ﺑﻌﺪﻫﺎ‪٩٥ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻋﻨﺪﻙ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻓﻴﺔ ﻭﺳﻼﻣﺎﺕ ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻫﻼﹰ ﻭﺳﻬ ﹰﻼ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺷﻜﺮﹰﺍ ﺟﺰﻳ ﹰﻼ ﻟﺘﺸﺮﻳﻔﻚ ﻟﺠﻨﺎﺑﻨﺎ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻴﻮﻡ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻤﻨـﻮﻧﻴﻦ‪ ..‬ﺍﷲ‬ ‫ﻳﺤﻔﻈﻚ‪...‬ﺑﺎﻟﺨﺪﻣﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺇﻥ ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﺗﺘﻜﺮﺭ ﺍﻟﻠﻘـﺎﺀﺍﺕ ﻣـﺮﺓ ﺃﺧـﺮﻯ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺷﻜﺮﹰﺍ ﻟﺤﻀﺮﺗﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻤﻨـﻮﻥ ﺣﻴـﺎﻛﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﷲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺃﻧـﺘﻢ ﺳـﺎﺩﺗﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﺸـﺎﻫﺪﻳﻦ‪ ..‬ﺷـﻜﺮﹰﺍ ﻟﻄﻴـﺐ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺘﺎﺑﻌﺔ‪ ..‬ﺃﻟﺘﹶﻘﻴﻜﻢ ﻓﻲ ﺣﻠﻘﺎ ‪‬ﺕ ﻣ‪‬ﻘﺒﻠﺔ ﺑﺈﺫﻥ ﺍﷲ ﺗﻌﺎﻟﻰ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٩٦‬‬


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