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لقاء قناة الشرقية

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                      

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‫ﻟﻘﺎﺀُ ﻗﻨﺎﺓ ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﻔﻀﺎﺋﻴﺔ‬ ‫ﻣﻊ ﺍﻟﺰﻋﻴﻢ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻗﻲ‬ ‫ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴ‪‬ﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﹼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﹼﻩ ﺍﷲ(‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣ‪‬ﺸﺎﻫﺪﻳﻨﺎ ﺍﻷﻛﺎﺭﻡ ﺍﹸﺭ‪‬ﺣ‪‬ـﺐ ﺑﻜـﻢ ﻓـﻲ ﺣﻠﻘـﺔ‬ ‫ﺟﺪﻳﺪﺓ ﻭﺧﺎﺻﹼﺔ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﺑﺮﻧﺎﻣﺞ ﻓﻲ ﻣ‪‬ﺘﻨﺎﻭﻝ ﺍﻟﻴ‪‬ﺪ‪ ،‬ﺿـﻴﻔﻲ ﻟﺤﻠﻘـﺔ‬ ‫ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻠﹼﻴﻠـﺔ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ‪ ،‬ﺯﻋـﻴ ‪‬ﻢ ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻱ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﹸﺭﺣﺐ‪ ‬ﺑﺠﻨﺎﺑ ‪‬ﻚ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻫ ﹰﻼ ﻭﺳﻬﻼﹰ ﺑﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺮﺣﺒﺎﹰ ﺑﺠﻨﺎﺑـﻚ‪ ..‬ﺷـﺮ‪‬ﻓﺘﻨﺎ ﺑﺤﻀـﻮﺭ ‪‬ﻙ ﺍﻟﻴـﻮﻡ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻤﺪ ﷲ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻣﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻣﺮﺣﺒـﹰﺎ ﺑـﻚ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺷﻜﺮﺍﹰ ﺟﺰﻳﻼﹰ‪ ..‬ﺳﻠﻤﻚ ﺍﷲ‪٣ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺠﻤﺎﻋﺔ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﻮﻟﻮﻥ ﻧﺨـﺎﻑ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻗﺪ ﺟﻠﺐ‪ ‬ﻣﻌﻪ ﺍﻟﻜﻮﺭﻭﻧﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﻩ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻹﺷﺎﻋﺎﺕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ‬ ‫ﺃﺭﺍﻩ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴﺮ ﻣﻤﻦ ﻳﺘﻤﻨﻮﻥ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻋﻨﺪﻙ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻓﻴﺔ ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺷـﺎﺀ‬ ‫ﺍﷲ ﺳـﻼﻣﺎﺕ ﻟﻜــﻞ ﺍﻟﺸــﻌﻮﺏ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺃﺻــﻴﺒﺖ ﺑﻬــﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻮﺑــﺎﺀ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﺍﻟﺼﻴﻨﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﺍﻹﻳﺮﺍﻧﻲ ﻭﻏﻴﺮﻩ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻛﹸﻨﺖﹸ ﺃﺣﻀـﺮ‬ ‫ﺩﺭﺳــﺎﹰ ﻫﻨــﺎﻙ ﻭﻋﻄﱠﹶﻠــﺖ ﺍﻟﺤــﻮﺯﺓ ﺑﻨــﺎ ًﺀ ﻋﻠــﻰ ﻫــﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤــﺮﺽ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻧﺘﺸﺎﺭﻩ‪ ،‬ﻓﺈﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺗﻌﻄﻴﻞ ﻗﹸﻠﺖﹸ ﻓﻸﺭﺟﻊ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ‪ ،‬ﻓﺘـﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﺇﻟﻰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻧﺮﻯ ﻫﻞ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﺟﻊ ﺍﻟﺪﺭﺱ ﺃﻡ ﻻ ‪‬ﻳﺮﺟﻊ‪ ..‬ﺍﷲ ﻛﺮﻳﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺪﺭﺱ ﺗﺰﺍﻣﻦ ﻣﻊ ﺃﺣﺪﺍﺙ ﻭﺗﻄﻮﺭﺍﺕ ﻣﻬﻤﺔ‬ ‫‪٤‬‬ ‫ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪ ،‬ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻗـﺪ ﺗﺤﺘـﺎﺝ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻭﺟـﻮﺩﻙ‪‬‬ ‫ﻓـﻲ ﻟﺤﻈـﺔ ﻣﻌﻴﻨـﺔ ﻣـﻦ ﺑـﺪﺀ ﺍﻟﻤﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ ﻭﻣـﺎ ﺑﻌـﺪﻫﺎ ﻣــﻦ‬

‫ﺃﺣﺪﺍﺙ‪ .‬ﺃﻟﻢ ﻳﻜﻦ‪ ‬ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻜﻦ ﺗﺄﺟﻴﻞ ﺍﻟـﺪﺭﺱ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻭﻗـﺖ‬ ‫ﺁﺧﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺃﺻﻼﹰ ﻣﻘﺼﻮﺩ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻴﻒ ﻣﻘﺼﻮﺩ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻻ ﺗﻘﻮﻟـﻮﺍ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﻈﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ )ﻣﻘﺘﺪﺍﺋﻴﺔ(‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻗﹸﻠﺘﹸﻬﺎ ﺳﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ ﺣﻴﻦ ﺧﹶﺮ‪‬ﺟ‪ ‬ﹸﺖ ﻣﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺨﻴﻤﺔ ﻭﺩﺧﻮﻝ ﺍﻟﺨﻀﺮﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﻗﹸﻠﺘﹸﻬﺎ‪ :‬ﺃﻥ ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻗﻲ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ‬ ‫ﻻ ﺩﺧﻞ ﻟﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻋﻠ ‪‬ﻲ ﻓﹶﻌﻠﹾﺘﹸﻪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺫﻟﻚ ﻻ ﺃﺳـﺘﻄﻴﻊ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻓﻌﻞ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺳﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻗﻄﻊ ﺷﺎﺭﻋﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﺳﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﹸﺣـﺮﹺﻕ‬ ‫)ﺗﺎﻳﺮ()‪ ،(١‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻣﺨﺘﻠﻒ؛ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺭﺃﺳـﻲ ﻋﻤﺎﻣـﺔ ﻭﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋـﺮﻑ‬ ‫ﻛﻴﻒ ﺃﺗﺼﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﻫﻢ ﺷﻌﺐ ﻭﻳﺘﺼﺮﻓﻮﻥ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺃﻣﺮ ﺁﺧﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ ﻳﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻣﻮﺍﻗـﻒ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﻟﻢ ﺗﻜﻦ ﺛﺎﺑﺘﺔ ﻣﻦ ﺛﻮﺭﺓ ﺗﺸـﺮﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺒﺪﺍﻳـﺔ‬ ‫‪٥‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺇﻃﺎﺭ ﻋﺠﻠﺔ ﺳﻴﺎﺭﺓ‪.‬‬

‫ﻛﺎﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﺍﻧﻐﻤـﺎﺱ‪ ،‬ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﺃﺷـﺒﻪ ﺑﺎﻻﻧﺼـﻬﺎﺭ ﻭﺍﻟـﺪﻋﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺒﺎﺷﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺗﻮﺟﻴﻬﺎﺕ ﻣﻦ ﺑﻌﻴﺪ ﺗﺒﺪﻭ ﻭﺍﺿﺤﺔ ﻓـﻲ ﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺣﻴﺎﻥ ﻭﻓﻲ ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳﺪﺍﺕ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺻﺤﻴﺢ‪ ،‬ﺻﺤﻴﺢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻦ ﺛـﻢ ﺍﻧﻘﻠـﺐ ﺍﻷﻣـﺮ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣـﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﺸـﺒﻪ ﺍﻟﺠﻔـﺎﺀ‬ ‫ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺍﻟﺠ‪‬ﻔﻮﺓ ﻣﺎ ﺑﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻓﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﺍﻟﺴﺒﺐ ﻓﻲ ﺫﻟﻚ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋﺘﺒـﺮ ﻧﻔﺴـﻲ‬ ‫‪٦‬‬ ‫ﺭﻗﻴــﺐ‪ ،‬ﺃﺑــﹰﺎ ﻟﻠﺠﻤﻴــﻊ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘــﻰ ﻟﻠﺴﻴﺎﺳــﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤــﺎ ﻟــﻴﺲ ﺃﺏ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺑﻞ ﺃﺥ ﻷﻧﻬﻢ ﻛﺒﺎﺭ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـ ‪‬ﻦ ﻫـﺆﻻﺀ ﺷـﺒﺎﺏ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺜــﻮﺍﺭ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺘﻈــﺎﻫﺮﻭﻥ ﺷــﺒﺎﺏ‪ ،‬ﻓــﺎﹸﻋﺘﹶﺒ‪‬ﺮ ﺃﺏ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻷﺏ ﻣــﺮﺓ‬ ‫ﻳﻤـﺪﺡ‪ ..‬ﺍﺑﻨـﻚ ﻋﻨـﺪﻣﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﻌـﻞ ﺷـﻴﺌﺎﹰ ﺟﻴـﺪﹰﺍ ﺗﻘـﻮﻝ ﻟـﻪ‪ :‬ﺷـﻜﺮﺍﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﺟﺰﺍﻙ‪ ‬ﺍﷲ ﺧﻴﺮﺍﹰ ﻭﺗﻌﻄﻴـﻪ ﻫﺪﻳـﺔ ﻭﺗﺴـﺎﻋﺪﻩ‪ ،‬ﻭﻣـﺮﹰﺓ ‪‬ﻳﺨﻄـﺊ؛‬ ‫ﻓﹶﺘﹸﻨﺒﻬﻪ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺃﻭ ﻣﺮﺗﻴﻦ ﺃﻭ ﺧﻤﺴـﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻋﺸـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺣﺴـﺐ ﻃﺎﻗﺘـﻚ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺣﺴﺐ ﺍﻟﺨﻄﺄ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻓﻌﻠﻪ‪ ،‬ﻓﺈﺫﺍ ﺗﻤﺎﺩﻯ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﻀﺮﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻣﻤﻜﻦ!‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟـﻢ ﺗﹶﺼـﻞ ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫)ﺍﻟﺒﺴـﻂ()‪ ،(١‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻧﺒ‪‬ﻬﻨـﺎﻩ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟـﻼﺯﻡ‪ ،‬ﻛﻤـﺎ ﻧﻘــﻮﻝ‬ ‫ﺑـ)ﮔـﺼــﮕــﻮﺻﺔ( ﺃﻭ ﺗﻐﺮﻳـﺪﺓ ﺑﺸـﻲﺀ ﻣـﻦ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻴـﻞ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﻤﺶﹺ ﺍﻟﺤﺎﻝ‪ ،‬ﺿﻐﻄﻨﺎ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺻﺎﺭ ﺧﻄﺄ ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺻﺎﺭ‬ ‫ﺷﻲﺀ ﺯﻳﺎﺩﺓ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻓﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻋﺎﻃﻔـﺔ ﻣـﻦ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻑ ﺃﻭ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﺇﻥ ﺷﺎﺀ ﺍﷲ ﻛﻞ ﺷـﻲﺀ ﻳـﺘﻢ ﺣﹼﻠـﻪ ﻭ‪‬ﻳﺮ ﹺﺟـﻊ ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫ﻣﻜﺎﻧﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺃﺛﺎﺭ ﺣﻔﻴﻈﺘﻜﻢ‪ ،‬ﺗﻘﻮﻝ ﺣﻀﺮﺗﻚ ﺇﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮﻳﻦ ﺃﺧﻄﺄﻭﺍ‪ ،‬ﺑﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﺃﺧﻄﺄﻭﺍ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺤﺪﻳﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺖ ﺗﺘﺬﻛﺮ ﺃﻧﱠﻨـﻲ‬ ‫ﺟ‪‬ﻤ‪ ‬ﺪ ﹸﺕ ﺟﻴﺶ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ‪ ..‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟ ﻷﺟﻞ ﺳ‪‬ـﻤ‪‬ﻌ‪‬ﺘﹸﻪ‪ ..‬ﻗﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ‬ ‫ﺇﻻ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴـﻤﻌﺔ‪ ،‬ﺇﻻ ‪‬ﺳـﻤﻌﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﺠﺎﻫـﺪ ﻭ ‪‬ﺳـﻤﻌﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻘـﺎﻭﻡ‪ ،‬ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﻭﺻﻞ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺴـﺎﺀ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺳـﻤﻌﺘﻪ ﺟﻤ‪‬ﺪﺗﹸـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭ ‪‬ﺟﻤ‪‬ـﺪﺕﹸ‬ ‫ﺣﺘﻰ ﺳﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻡ‪ ،‬ﻭﺣﺘﻰ ﻛﺘﻠﺔ ﺍﻷﺣﺮﺍﺭ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ‪...‬‬ ‫‪٧‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺍﻻﻋﺘﺪﺍﺀ ﺑﺎﻟﻀﺮﺏ‪.‬‬

‫ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟ ﺣﻴﻦ ﺗﹶﺼﻞ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴﻤﻌﺔ‪ ..‬ﺃﻗﻌﺪ ﻭﺍﺳ‪‬ﻜﹸﺖ‪ ،‬ﺃﻫـﻢ ﺷـﻲﺀ‬ ‫ﻋﻨﺪﻱ ﻓﻲ ﻛﻞﱢ ﺷﻲﺀ؛ ﺍﻟﺠﻬﺎﺩ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﺔ؛ ﻫﻮ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴـﻤﻌﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺣﻴﻨﻤﺎ ﺗﺼﺒﺢ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴﻤﻌﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺤ‪‬ﻚ‪ ،‬ﻓﺤﻴﻨﺌﺬ‪ ‬ﻓﻲ ﺫﻟﻚ ﺍﻟﻮﻗـﺖ‬ ‫ﻳﺘﻐﻴـﺮ ﺗﻌـﺎﻣﻠﻲ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﹼﻠـﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﻷﺑﻮﻳـﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺤﻨﻴـﺔ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻗﻠﻴـﻞﹲ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸ‪‬ﺪ‪‬ﺓ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺃﺛﱠﺮ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺳ‪‬ﻤﻌ‪‬ﺘﹶﻬ‪‬ﻢ؟ ﻣﺎ ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻟﺴـﻠﻮﻙ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺣﺪﺙ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺻﺤﻴﺢ‪ ،‬ﺳـﺆﺍﻟﻚ‬ ‫ﺟﺪﺍﹰ ﺟﻴـﺪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭﻟﻬـﺎ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﺃﺛﱠـﺮ‪ ‬ﺑـﻲ ﺟـﺪﺍﹰ ﺍﻟﺼﹶـﻠﺐ ﻓـﻲ ﺳـﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻮﺛﺒﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺗﹶﻘﻞ ﻟﻲ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺗﹶﻌﺎﻣﻞ ﻓﺮﺩﻱ‪ ،‬ﻛﺎﻥ ﺗﹶﺤﺘﻪ ﺧﻤﺴﻤﺎﺋﺔ‬ ‫ﺷﺨﺺ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺃﻟﻒ ﺷﺨﺺ ﻳ‪‬ﺼﻴﺤﻮﻥ ﻭﻳ‪‬ﻬﺘﻔﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫﺬﻩ ﺳـﺎﺑﻘﺔ‬ ‫ﺧﻄﻴﺮﺓ ﺟﺪﺍﹰ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺠـﺐ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﺘﻜـﺮﺭ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ ﺗﻜـﺮ‪‬ﺭﺕ ﻗـﺪ ﺍﹸﻋﻠـ ‪‬ﻦ‬ ‫ﻋﺪﺍﺋﻲ ﻟﻠﺜﻮ‪‬ﺍﺭ ﻭﺃﻗﻮﻟﹸﻬﺎ ﺻﺮﺍﺣ ﹰﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺣﺮﻕ ﻭﻗﻄﻊ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻕ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧـﺎ ﻗﹸﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ ﻭﺃﻭﺻـﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ‬ ‫‪ ٨‬ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴـــﺮ ﻣـــﻦ ﺍﻟﺮﺳـــﺎﺋﻞ‪ ،‬ﻭﻗﻠﹸﺘﻬـــﺎ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳـــﺪﺍﺕ ﻭﻗﻠﹸﺘﻬـــﺎ‬

‫ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺼﺮﻳﺤﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﺇﻧﱠﻪ ﺍﻟﺤﺮﻕ ﻭﻗﻄﻊ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻕ ﻻ ‪‬ﻳﻀﹸـﺮ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﻴﻦ؛‬ ‫ﻋﻠــﻰ ﺍﻟﻌﻜــﺲ ﻫــﻢ ﻣﻮﺟــﻮﺩﻭﻥ ﻓــﻲ ﺍﻟﺨﻀــﺮﺍﺀ ﻭﻣﺘﻨﻌﻤــﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻭ‪‬ﻳﺴـﺮﹺﻗﻮﻥ ﻭﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﻠـﻢ ﺑﻬـﻢ ﺃﺣـﺪ‪ ،‬ﻭﻳ‪‬ﻔﺴ‪‬ـﺪﻭﻥ ﻭﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﻠـﻢ ﺑﻬـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺣﺪ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺘﻀﺮ‪‬ﺭ ﺍﻟﻮﺣﻴﺪ ﻣـﻦ ﻗﻄـﻊ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻕ ‪‬ﻣـﻦ‪‬؟ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻧـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﻧـﺖ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻣﻨﺸـﻐﻞ ﺑﺪﺭﺳـﻲ ﻓـﻲ ﻗﹸـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺍﻷﻏﻨﻴـﺎﺀ ﻭﻻ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﺍﻟـﻮﻃﻨﻴﻴﻦ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﺒﻌﻴـﻴﻦ ﻭﻣـﺎ ﺷـﺎﻛﻞ ﺫﻟـﻚ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺘﻀـﺮ‪‬ﺭ ﺍﻟﻮﺣﻴـﺪ؛‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣــﻞ ﻭﺍﻟﻄﺎﻟــﺐ ﻭﺍﻹﻧﺴــﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﻌــﺎﺩﻱ ﻭﺍﻟﻤــﺮﻳﺾ ﺍﻟــﺬﻱ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻳﺴـﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺍﻟـﺬﻫﺎﺏ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺴﺘﺸـﻔﻰ‪ .‬ﺷـﺮﻃﻲ ﻣـﺮﻭﺭ ﻳﻀـﺮﺏ‬ ‫ﻭﻳ‪‬ﻬـﺎﻥ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺸـﺎﺭﻉ ﻭﺗﹸﻨﹾـﺰﹶﻉ ﻣﻼﺑﺴـﻪ؟! ﺷـﺮﻃﻲ ﺍﻟﻤـﺮﻭﺭ ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﻋﻨﺪﻱ ﻣ‪‬ﻘﺪ‪‬ﺱ‪ ،‬ﻛﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ ﺇﻻ ﺷﺮﻃﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﻭﺭ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻋﻼﻗﺔ ﻟﻬﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻻ ﺑﺪﻭﻟﺔ ﻭﻻ ﺑﻜﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﺇﻧﻤﺎ ﻫﻮ ﻳﻘﻮﻡ ﺑﻮﺍﺟﺒﻪ ﻭﻳ‪‬ﻨﻈﱠﻢ ﻟـﻚ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴـﻴﺮ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺣﺘﻰ ﺳ‪‬ﻴﺮ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ )ﺍﻟﺘﹸﻜﹸﺘـﻚ( ﻭﻏﻴﺮﻫـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻲ ﻋﻼﻗﺘـﻪ ﻟﻜـﻲ‬ ‫ﺗﹸﺠﺮﺩﻩ ﺛﻴﺎﺑﻪ ﻭﺗﹶﻀﺮﹺﺑﻪ؟ ﻫﺬﺍ ﻟﻴﺲ ﺣﻖ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﺛـﻮﺭﺓ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻮ‬ ‫ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺭﺓ ﺑﺈﺳـﻤﻲ ﻷﻭﻗﻔﺘﹸﻬـﺎ ﺑـﻨﻔﺲ ﺍﻟﻴـﻮﻡ ﻭﺑـﻨﻔﺲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻠﱠﺤﻈـﺔ‪ .‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻷﻧﻬـﺎ ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ ﻟـﻲ ﹸﻗﻤـﺖﹸ ﺑﻌـﺪﺓ ﻃـﺮﻕ ﻭﻋـﺪﺓ ‪٩‬‬

‫ﺗﻐﺮﻳـﺪﺍﺕ ﻭﻋـﺪﺓ ﺗﺼـﺮﻳﺤﺎﺕ ﺿـﺪ‪‬ﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻗﻮﻟﻬـﺎ ﺿـﺪﻫﻢ‬ ‫ﻭﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﺼﺎﻟﺤﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻴﻤـﺎ ﻳﺘﻌﻠـﻖ ﺑﻘﻄـﻊ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻕ‪ ،‬ﺃﺗـﺬﻛﺮ‪ ‬ﺗﻐﺮﻳـﺪﺓ‬ ‫ﻟﺠﻨﺎﺑﻚ‪ ‬ﻓﻲ ﺑﺪﺍﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺭﺓ‪ ،‬ﻗﹸﹾﻠﺖﹶ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺿﺪ ﻗﻄـﻊ ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻕ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻠﻄﺔ ﺃﺟﺒـﺮﺕ ﻫـﺆﻻﺀ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﻀـﻲ ﺑﺎﺗﺠـﺎﻩ ﻗﻄـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻕ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﺼﻌﻴﺪ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻌﺘﺼـﻤﻮﻥ ﺑـﺎﻗﻮﻥ ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﺎﺣﺎﺕ ﻣﻨﺬ ﺃﺭﺑﻌﺔ ﺃﺷﻬﺮ ﺩﻭﻥ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﺴﺘﹶﻤ‪‬ﻊ ﻟﻬﻢ ﺃﺣﺪ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻮ‬ ‫ﺑﺮﺃﻳﻚ ﺍﻟﺘﺼﻌﻴﺪ ﻭﺍﻟﺨﻄﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﺼﻌﻴﺪﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻜﻦ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻳﺬﻫﺒﻮﺍ ﺑﺎﺗﺠﺎﻫﻬﺎ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟـﻮ ﺃﻋﻄﻴﺘﻨـﻲ‬ ‫ﻓﺮﺻﺔ ﻟﻘﹸﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻚ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻛﹸﻨﺖﹸ ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﻟﻤﻦ ﺣﻮﻟﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻟﻢ ﺃﺳـﺘﻄﻊ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻓﻌﻞ ﺑﻤﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺗﻲ ﻭﺑﺨﻴﻤﺘـﻲ ﻭﺍﻋﺘﺼـﺎﻣﺎﺗﻲ ﻋﻨـﻒ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﻫﺆﻻﺀ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﻢ ﺭﺃﺱ ﻛﺒﻴـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻳﺴـﺘﻄﻴﻌﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻓـﻼ ﻳﻌﺘـﺮﺽ‬ ‫ﻭﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻓﹶﻌ‪‬ﻠﹾﺖﹶ ﻫﻜﺬﺍ ﻭﻻ ﻳﻘﻮ ﹸﻝ ﻟﻬـﻢ ﺃﺣـﺪ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﻓﻌﻠـﺘﹸﻢ‬ ‫‪ ١٠‬ﻫﻜـﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻳﺤﺘـﺎﺝ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺷـﻲﺀ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﻨـﻒ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻜـﻦ ﺷـﻲﺀ ﻣـﻦ‬

‫ﺍﻟﻌﻨﻒ! ﻻ ﻟﺜﻼﺛـﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺃﺭﺑﻌـﺔ ﺃﺷـﻬﺮ ﺑـﻼ ﺃﻛـﻞ ﻭﻻ ﺷـﺮﺏ ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﻣﺴﺘﺸـﻔﻴﺎﺕ ﻭﻻ ﻣــﺪﺍﺭﺱ ﻭﻻ ﺟﺎﻣﻌــﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺣــﻴﻦ ﻗﻠﻨــﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﺿﹺﺮﺑﻮﺍ ﻋﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﻤﻞ ﻓﻠﻤﺪﺓ ﻳﻮﻡ ﺃﻭ ﻳﻮﻣﺎﻥ ﺃﻭ ﺷـﻬﺮ ﺃﻭ ﺷـﻬﺮﻳﻦ‬ ‫ﻛﺎﻑ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺖﹶ ﺃﻭﺻﻠﺖﹶ ﺭﺳﺎﻟﺘﻚ ﺑﺄﺩﺏ ﻭﺑﺘﻌﺎﻃﻒ‪ .‬ﹶﺧـﻮﻓﻲ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﻗﻠﺔ ﺗﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ ﻭﻓﻌﻼﹰ ﹶﻗـﻞﹼ‪ ،‬ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﺍﻷﻋـﺪﺍﺩ ﺳـﺎﺑﻘﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻛﺒﻴﺮﺓ ﻭﺍﻵﻥ ﻗﻠﻴﻠﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻗﺼﺪ ﺃﻧﹼﻪ ﻷﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﺍﻧﺴﺤﺒﺖ ﺃﻭ ﻷﻧﻨﻲ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﹸﺅﻳﺪ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻭﺇﻧﻤﺎ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻷﺟﻮﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣ‪‬ﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﺍﻷﺟـﻮﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﺘﻴ‪‬ﺎﺭ‪‬ﻳـﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻘﺘﺪﺍﺋﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻞ ﺍﻷﺟـﻮﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻣـﺔ ﺗﺘﺴـﺎﺀﻝ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺮﹺﻗـﻮﻥ؟‬ ‫ﻭﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﻄﹶﻌﻮﻥ؟ ﻭﻓﻌﻼﹰ ﻫﺬﺍ ﻛﻠﻪ ﺃﺧﺸﻰ ﺃﻭ ﹰﻻ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﺴﻲﺀ ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫ﺳ‪‬ﻤ‪‬ﻌ‪‬ﺘﹶﻬ‪‬ﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺛﺎﻧﻴﹰﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﻠﱢﻞ ﻣ‪ ‬ﻦ ﺗﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟﻨﺎﺱ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺗﻌـﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟﻨـﺎﺱ ﻓﻘـﻂ ﺃﻡ ﺗﻌـﺎﻃﻒ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﺳـﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺃﹸﻋﻄﻲ ﻋﻬﺪﹰﺍ ﺃﻧﱠﻬﻢ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺍﺳﺘﻤﺮﻭﺍ ﻛﺎﻟﻮﺿﻊ ﺍﻟﺤـﺎﻟﻲ ﻭﻛﺎﻟﺴـﺎﺑﻖ‪١١ ،‬‬

‫ﻭﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﺍﻟﻮﺳﻄﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻣﺎ ﺑﻴﻨﻬﻤﺎ ﻣـﻦ ﺣﺎﺩﺛـﺔ ﺍﻟﻮﺛﺒـﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺤـﺮﻕ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﻘﻄﻊ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺗﻌﺎﻃﻔﻲ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ ﻣﺴﺘﻤﺮ ﻣﺎﺋﺔ ﺑﺎﻟﻤﺎﺋﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﻳ‪‬ﻌـﺎﺗ‪‬ﺒﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻭﺟﻨﺎ‪‬ﺑـﻚ ﻗﻠـﺖﹶ‬ ‫ﺇﻧﱠﻚ ﺑﻤﺜﺎﺑﺔ ﺃﺏ ﻟﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﻳﻌﺎﺗﺒﻮﻧﻚ ﻣـﻦ ﺑـﺎﺏ ﺍﻻﹸﺑـﻮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺃﱠﻧـﻪ‬ ‫ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﻮﻗـﺖ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻛﹸﻨﱠـﺎ ﻓﻴـﻪ ﻧﹸﻘﹾﺘﹶـﻞ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ ﻣﻤـﻨﻬﺞ ﻭﺑﺸـﻜﻞ‬ ‫ﻳـﻮﻣﻲ‪ ٦٠٠ ،‬ﺷــﻬﻴﺪ ﻭﻣـﺎ ﺇﻟــﻰ ﺫﻟــﻚ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻭﺻــﻞ ﻋــﺪﺩ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﺮﺣـﻰ ﺇﻟـﻰ ‪ ٢٥‬ﺃﻟـﻒ ﺟـﺮﻳﺢ ﻭﻓـﻴﻬﻢ ﻣﻌﻮﻗـﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻢ ﻳـﺘﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻃﻲ ﺇﻋﻼﻣﻴﺎﹰ ﻣﻊ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻘﻀﻴﺔ ﻣﺜﻠﻤﺎ ﺗﻢ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻃﻲ ﻣـﻊ ﻗﻄـﻊ‬ ‫ﺷﺎﺭﻉ ﺃﻭ ﺣﺮﻕ ﺇﻃﺎﺭ ﺃﻭ ﺷﻲﺀ ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻴـﻞ‪ ،‬ﺃﻻ ﺗﹶﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺎﺭﺑﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻳﻘﻮﻟﻮﻧﻬﺎ ﺻﺤﻴﺤﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺎﺭﺑـﺔ‬ ‫ﺻﺤﻴﺤﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻬﺎ ﺟﻮﺍﺏ‪:‬‬ ‫ﺃﻭﻻﹰ‪ :‬ﻟﻬﺎ ﻣﺪﻯ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺛﺎﻧﻴﹰﺎ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺃﻋﺘﺐ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠ‪‬ﻴﻔﻌﻠﻮﺍ ﻣﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﻌﻠـﻮﺍ؛‬ ‫‪ ١٢‬ﻷﻧﻬﻢ ﻣ‪‬ﺘﻮﻗﱠﻊ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ ﻛـﻞ ﺷـﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﹶﻗﺘﻠـﻮﺍ ﺃﻭ ﺃﺣ ‪‬ﺮﻗـﻮﺍ‬

‫ﻫﻮ ﻣﺘﻮﻗﻊ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ؛ ﻷﻧﻬﻢ ﻓﺎﺳﺪﻭﻥ ﻭﻻ ﻋﺘﺐ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳـﺪﻳﻦ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜــﻦ ﺣﻴﻨﻤــﺎ ﺗﻌﺘــﺐ ﻋﻠــﻴﻬﻢ)‪ (١‬ﻷﻧﻬــﻢ ﺻــﺎﻟﺤﻮﻥ ﺣﺴــﺐ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻔﺮﻭﺽ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺴﺎﺩ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺪﺭﺃ ﺑﺎﻟﻔﺴﺎﺩ‪ .‬ﻭﺷﻲﺀ ﺁﺧﺮ‪ :‬ﺍﺑﻨـﻚ ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﻗﹸ‪‬ﺘﻞ ﺃﻭ ﻣﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻫﻞ ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﻭﺗﻘـﻮﻝ ﻟـﻲ‪ :‬ﻋﻈﱠـﻢ ﺍﷲ ﻟـﻚ‪ ‬ﺍﻷﺟـﺮ؟‬ ‫ﻫﻞ ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﺗﹸﻌﺰﻳﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻡ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻣـﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺰﻳـﻚ؟! ﺇﻥ ﻫـﺆﻻﺀ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺃﺳﺘﻨﻜﺮ ﻭﻻ ﺍﹸﻋﺰﹼﻱ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻋﺮﻑ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﺃﺗﺼـﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠﻴﺤﻤـﻞ‬ ‫ﺃﺣﺪ ﻋﻠﻴﻬﻢ ﺳﻼﺡ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻋـﺮﻑ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﺃﺗﺼـﺮﻑ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠﻴﻌـﺘﻘﻠﻬﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺣﺪ ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻋﺮﻑ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﺃﺗﺼـﺮﻑ‪ .‬ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟـﺪ ﺷـﺨﺺ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﺘـﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﺑﻨـﻪ ﻓﻴ‪ ‬ﹾﺼـﺪ‪‬ﺭ ﺑﻴـﺎﻥ ﺍﺳـﺘﻨﻜﺎﺭ ﺑﻘﺘـﻞ ﺍﺑﻨـﻪ؟! ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺇ‪‬ﻣـﺎ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ـﺮﺩ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻨﺘﻈـــﺮ ﺍﻟﺘﻌـــﺎﺯﻱ ﻣـــﻦ ﺍﻟﻨـــﺎﺱ‪ ،‬ﺃﻟـــﻴﺲ ﻫﻜـــﺬﺍ ﻋﺸـــﺎﺋﺮﻳﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﺟﺘﻤﺎﻋﻴـﺎﹰ؟! ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟﻬـﺎ ﻣﻌﻨـﻰ ﺃﻧﹼـﻲ ﺃﺳـﺘﻨ ‪‬ﻜﺮ ﻗﺘـﻞ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ‬ ‫ﻭﺇﺧﻮﺍﻧﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ‪ ‬ﺻﺤﻴﺤﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﺬﻟﻚ ﺣﺘﻰ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺘﻴ‪‬ﺎﺭ ﺣﻴﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﺘﻞ‬ ‫ﺷـﺨﺺ ﻻ ﺃﺳـﺘﻨﻜﺮ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﻀـﻬﻢ ﻳﻌﺘﺒـﻮﻥ ﻋﻠـﻲ ﺣـﻴﻦ ﺗﹶﻤـﻮﺕ‬ ‫ﺷﺨﺼﻴﺔ ﺧﺎﺭﺟﻴﺔ ﻣﺜﻼﹰ ﻣﺠﺎﻫﺪﺓ ﺃﻧﺖ ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ـﺘﹶﻨﹾ ‪‬ﻜﺮ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ‬ ‫‪١٣‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺃﻱ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ‪.‬‬

‫‪‬ﻳﻘﺘﹶــﻞ ﺷــﺨﺺ ﻣــﻦ ﺳــﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺍﻟﺴ‪‬ــﻼﻡ ﺃﻭ ﺟــﻴﺶ ﺍﻟﻤﻬــﺪﻱ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ـﺘﹶﻨﹾﻜ‪‬ﺮ! ﻷﻥ‪ ‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﺑﻨـﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﺫﺍﻙ ﺃﺧـﻲ ﺃﻭ ﺻـﺪﻳﻘﻲ ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﺃﺳﺘﻨﻜﺮ ﻟﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﺗﺄﺗﻲ ﻭﺗﻌﺘﺐ ﻋﻠـﻲ ﺑـﺄ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹶﺘﻠـﻮﻥ ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﺴﺘﻨﻜﺮ! ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻋﻴﺐ ﺃﻥ ﺃﺳﺘﻨﻜﺮ؛ ﻫﺆﻻﺀ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﻌــﺪ ‪ ٢٠٢٠/١/٢٤‬ﺍﻟــﺬﻱ ﻛــﺎﻥ ﻣﻮﻋــﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﻜﺒﺮﻯ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺩﻋﺎ ﺇﻟﻴﻬﺎ ﺟﻨﺎﺑﻜﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻣﻮﺿـﻮﻉ‬ ‫ﺣﺴ‪‬ﺎﺱ ﺟﺪﺍﹰ!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻮﺿﻮﻉ ﺣﺴ‪‬ﺎﺱ ﻭﺳـﻨﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋﻨـﻪ‪ ،‬ﺿـﺮﻭﺭﻱ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ ﻧـﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋﻨـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﺿـﺪ ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟـﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜـﻲ ﻭﺍﻟﺘﻨﺪﻳـﺪ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﻮﺍﺟـﺪ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜـﻲ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌـﺪﻫﺎ ﺗﺤﻮ‪‬ﻟـﺖ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻌﻼﻗﺔ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺍﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﺗﱠﻬﻢ ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮ ﻭﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﻗـﺪ ﺗﺤـﻮﻝ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺨﻄـﺎﺏ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﻧﻤـﺎ ﺗﹶﺤﻮ‪‬ﻟـﺖ ﺍﻟﻌﻼﻗـﺔ ﻣـﺎ ﺑـﻴﻦ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ ﺑﺸــﻜﻞ ﻋــﺎﻡ ﻭﺃﻧﺼــﺎﺭﻩ ﻣــﻊ ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻈــﺎﻫﺮﻳﻦ‬ ‫‪ ١٤‬ﻭﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺤﺘﺠــﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻭﻭﺻــﻞ ﺍﻷﻣــﺮ ﺇﻟــﻰ ﺻ‪‬ــ ‪‬ﺪﺍﻣﺎﺕ ﻓــﻲ ﺑﻌــﺾ‬

‫ﺍﻷﺣﻴﺎﻥ ‪‬ﺟﺮ‪‬ﺕ ﻓﻲ ﺳـﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭﻳﻦ ﻭ ‪‬ﺟـﺮ‪‬ﺕ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﻄﻌـﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﺮﻛـﻲ ﻭﺳـﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﺤﺮﻳـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺍﻣﺎﺕ ﺍﺗﱡﻬﹺﻤ‪‬ـﺖ ﺑﻬـﺎ‬ ‫\"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ\" ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﻗـﺎﻝ‪ :‬ﺑـﺄ ‪‬ﻥ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻓﻲ ﺗﻐﺮﻳﺪﺗﻪ ﻛﺄﻧﻤﺎ ﺃﻋﻄﻰ ﺍﻟﻀﻮﺀ ﺍﻷﺧﻀﺮ ﻟﻬﺆﻻﺀ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺃﺟﻞ ﺍﻟﺼ‪ ‬ﺪﺍﻡ ﻭﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺼﺎﺩﻣﺔ ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ ﻭﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫\"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ\" ﺩﺍﻓﻌـﻮﺍ ﻓـﻲ ﻓﺘـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﻭﺗﻜـﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺭﺓ ﺳـﻠﻤﻴﺔ ﻭﻋﻠـﻰ ﻣﺴـﺎﺭﻫﺎ ﺍﻟﺤﻘﻴﻘـﻲ ﺭ‪‬ﻏﻤـﹰﺎ ﻋﻨﹼـﻲ ﻭﻋـﻦ‬ ‫\"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ\" ﻳﺪﺍﻓﻌﻮﻥ ﻋـﻦ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺭﺓ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ ﺯﻟﹼـﺖ‬ ‫ﻗﻠﻴ ﹰﻼ ‪ -‬ﻛﻤﺎ ﻗﹸﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻚ‪ -‬ﻻ ﺑﺪ ﺃﻥ ﺗﺠﺮ ﺁﺫﺍﻥ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺗﹶﻘﺒﻞ ﺍﻟﺨﻄـﺄ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻷﻧﱠﻪ ﻳﻮﺟـﺪ ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴـﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺸـﺎﻏﺒﻴﻦ ﻭﻳ‪‬ﺤﺒـﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﻌﻨـﻒ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ‬ ‫ﻣﺪﻣﻨﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺮﹺﻕ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮ ﺃﺻـﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻓﻠﺮﺑﻤـﺎ ﺃﺛـﺎﺭ ﺫﻟـﻚ‬ ‫ﺣﻔﻴﻈﺔ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﻭ\"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ\" ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺘﻴ‪‬ﺎﺭ ﺻﺪﺭﻱ‪ ،‬ﻭﺗﻌﺮﻑ‬ ‫ﺃﻧﱠﻬـﻢ ﻻ ﻳﺴـﻜﺘﻮﻥ ﻋـﻦ ﻛـﻞ ﺷـﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻓﺼـﺎﺭ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻟﺼ‪‬ـﺪ‪‬ﺍﻡ‬ ‫ﻭﺧﻄﺄ‪ ،‬ﻓﺄﻧـﺎ ﻣﺒﺎﺷـﺮﺓ ﺃﻭﻗﹶﻔﹾﺘﹸـﻪ‪ ،‬ﹸﻗﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ‪ :‬ﻻ ﺗﻮﺟـﺪ \"ﻗﺒﻌـﺎﺕ ‪١٥‬‬

‫ﺯﺭﻕ\" ﺑﻌــﺪ ﺍﻵﻥ‪ ،‬ﻭﻓﻌــ ﹰﻼ ﻫــﺬﻳﻦ ﺍﻷﺳــﺒﻮﻋﻴﻦ ﺍﻷﺧﻴــﺮﻳﻦ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﺣﺮﻕ ﻭﻻ ﻗﻄﻊ ﻭﻻ ﺗﻌﻄﻴـﻞ ﺩﻭﺍﻡ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺤﻤـﺪ ﷲ ﻧﹶ ‪‬ﺠﺤ‪‬ـ ﹾﺖ‬ ‫ﺑﺨﺮﻭﻗــﺎﺕ ﺳــﻮﻑ ﺍﹸﺗﺎﺑﹺﻌ‪‬ﻬــﺎ ﺣﺮﻛــﺔ ﺣﺮﻛــﺔ ﻭﺟــﺰﺀ ﺟــﺰﺀ‬ ‫ﺑﺘﻔﺎﺻﻴﻠﻬﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻃﺎﻟﹶ‪‬ﺒــ ﹶﺖ ﺑﺘﺤﻘﻴــﻖ ﺣــﻮﻝ ﺃﺣــﺪﺍﺙ ﺳــﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻳﻦ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﺯﹺﻟ ﹸﺖ ﺍﹸﻃﺎﻟﺐ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﻌﻠﻮﻣﺎﺕ ﺍﻷﻭﻟﻴ‪‬ﺔ ﺣﻮﻝ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺩﻋﻨﺎ ﻻ ﻧﹸﺜﻴـﺮ ﺍﻵﻥ‬ ‫ﺃﻱ ﺷﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﺇ ‪‬ﻥ ﻧﹶﺠ‪‬ﺤ‪‬ﺖﹾ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﻭ ﻟـﻢ ﺗﹶـﻨﹾﺠ‪‬ﺢ‪ ‬ﻓﺄﻧـﺎ ﺃﺗﻌﻬـﺪ‬ ‫ﺑﻜﺸﻒ ﺍﻟﻜﹸﻞ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻗﻮ ﹸﻝ ﻟﻚ‪ :‬ﻗﹶﺘﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ ﻭﺇﺧـﻮﺍﻧﻲ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻗﹶﺘﻠﻰ \"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ\" ﻛـﺬﻟﻚ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ ﻭﺇﺧـﻮﺍﻧﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺑـﺪ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ ﺍﹸﺩﺍﻓ ‪‬ﻊ ﻋﻦ ﻛﻼ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻓﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟ ‪‬ﻦ ﺃﺳﻜ ﹶﺖ ﻋـﻦ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸـﻲﺀ‪،‬‬ ‫‪ ١٦‬ﻗﻀﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﻨﺠﻒ ﻭﺳﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻳﻦ ﺑﻌﻬﺪﺗﻲ ﻭﻟﹶﻦ‪ ‬ﺃﺗﻨﺎﺯﻝ ﻋﻨﻬـﺎ‪،‬‬

‫ﻭﺃﻧ ﹶﺖ ﺗﹶﻌﻠﻢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻗﺼﹼﺎﺻﺎﺗﻲ ﺟـﺎﻫﺰﺓ ﺿـﺪ ﺃﺗﺒـﺎﻋﻲ ﻓﻀـ ﹰﻼ ﻋـﻦ‬ ‫ﻏﻴﺮﻫﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﹶﺗﻨﻈـﺮ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺭﺓ؟ ﻫـﻞ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻜــﻦ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺴــﺘﻤﺮ ﻭﺗﹸﺤﻘــﻖ ﺃﻫــﺪﺍﻓﻬﺎ؟ ﻭﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻧــﺖ ﻗــﺪ‬ ‫ﺣﻘﱠﹶﻘ ﹾﺖ ﺷﻴﺌﺎﹰ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﻔﺘﺮﺍﺕ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻷﺷﻬﺮ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﺿﻴﺔ ﻓﺈ ‪‬ﻥ ﺍﻟﺜ ‪‬ﻮﺍﺭ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﻘﺘﻨﻌﻴﻦ ﺑﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﺣﻴﻦ ﺗﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻣﻌﻬﻢ ﻭﺗﺴﺄﻟﻬﻢ ﻓﺈﻧﹼﻬﻢ ﻳﻘﻮﻟﻮﻥ ﻟﻚ‪:‬‬ ‫ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻣﺎ ﺣﻘﻘﻨﺎﻩ ﻻ ﻳﺘﻨﺎﺳﺐ ﻣﻊ ﺍﻟﺪﻣﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺃﻋﻄﻴﻨﺎﻫﺎ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻦ ﺣﻘﻬـﻢ‪ ..‬ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺣﻘﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻟﺘــﺎﻟﻲ ﻫــﻞ ﺗﻌﺘﻘــﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫﻨــﺎﻙ ﺿــﺮﻭﺭﺓ‬ ‫ﻻﺳﺘﻤﺮﺍﺭ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺭﺓ ﻟﺘﺤﻘﻴﻖ ﻛﺎﻣﻞ ﺍﻷﻫﺪﺍﻑ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻃﺒﻌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﻏﻤـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﺃﻛﺒﺮ ﻭﺍﺣﺪ ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻤﺮ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺑ‪‬ﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻤﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻴﻒ ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻤﺮ‪ ..‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻲ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﺎﺳﺒﺔ؟ ‪١٧‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺑﺴـﻠﻤﻴﺘﻬﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺑﺴﻠﻤﻴﺘﻬﺎ ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻤﺮ؛ ﻻﺣﻆ ﺃﻧﺖ ﻭﺗﹶﺘﹶﺒ‪‬ﻊ ﻣ‪‬ـﻦ‪ ‬ﺗـﺄﺭﻳﺦ ‪ ١٠/١‬ﻭﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﻥ‪ ،‬ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺒﺪﺍﻳـﺔ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﺳـﻠﻤﻴﺔ ﻓﺤ‪‬ﱠﻘﻘـﺖﹾ ﻣﻄﺎﻟـﺐ‪ ،‬ﻭﺣـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﺑﺪﺃﺕ ﺗﺰﺩﺍﺩ ﻗﻠﻴﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﺑﺪﺃﺕ ﺗﺘﻼﺷﻰ ﻭﻟـﻢ ﻳﺴـﺘﺠﺐ ﻟﻬـﺎ ﺃﺣـﺪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺣﺘـﻰ ﺍﻟﺘﻌـﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟـﺪﻭﻟﻲ ﻓﻀـﻼﹰ ﻋـﻦ ﺍﻟﺘﻌـﺎﻃﻒ ﺍﻟـﺪﺍﺧﻠﻲ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻟﻘﻨـﻮﺍﺕ ﻛﻘﻨـﺎﺗﻜﻢ ﻭﻏﻴﺮﻫـﺎ ﺿـﻠﱠﺖ ﺗﺘﻌـﺎﻃﻒ‬ ‫ﻣﻌﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﻏﻴﺮﻫﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺣﻴﻨﻤﺎ ﺭﺟﻌـﺖ ﺳـﻠﻤﻴﺔ ﺭﺟـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﻣﻌﻬﺎ ﻭﺑﻌﺪﻫﺎ ﻟﻢ ﻳﺴﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃﺣﺪ ﺃﻥ ﻳﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋﻨﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﺫﻟـﻚ ﺍﻟﻮﻗـﺖ ﻣـﻦ ﻳـﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋﻨﻬـﺎ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋـﺮﻑ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﺍﹸﺳـﻜﺘﻪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﻓﺒﺴﻠﻤﻴﺘﻬﺎ ﺗﹶﺴ‪‬ﺘﹶﻤﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻞ ﺗﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ﺟﻨﺎﺑـﻚ‪ ،‬ﻛﻤـﺎ ﻫـﻮ ﻭﺍﺿـﺢ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳﺪﺓ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻧﹸﺸ‪‬ﺮ‪‬ﺕﹾ ﻗﺒﻞ ﺧﻤﺴﺔ ﻋﺸﺮ ﻳﻮﻣﺎﹰ ﺗﻘﺮﻳﺒﺎﹰ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻵﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﻧﺘﺠﺖ ﺗﻜﻠﻴﻔﺎﹰ ﻟﺮﺋﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﻫـﻮ ﻳﻘـﻮﻡ ﺍﻵﻥ‬ ‫‪ ١٨‬ﺑﺘﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ؟‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻃﺒﻌـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻷﻧﻬـﻢ ﺇﻥ‬ ‫ﻟﻮ ﻟﻢ ﻳﻜﻮﻧﻮﺍ ﺧﺎﺋﻔﻴﻦ ﻟﻢ ﻳﻔﻌﻠﻮﺍ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﺻﺪ‪‬ﻗﻨﻲ ﻟﻮ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﻜﻮﻧﻮﺍ ﺧﺎﺋﻔﻴﻦ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺭﺓ ﻟﻤﺎ ﺻﺎﺭ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻟـﻮ‬ ‫ﺑﻌﺪ ﺃﺭﺑﻌﻴﻦ ﺳﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺃﺭﺑﻌﻴﻦ ﺑﻞ ﺃﺭﺑﻌﻤﺎﺋﺔ ﺳﻨﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﻗﺎﻧﻮﻥ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﺑﻬﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﻗـﺎﻧﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﻱ ﺷﻲﺀ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻱ ﺣﺮﻛﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺫﻟﻚ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ ﻛﹸﻠﱢﻒ‪ ‬ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﻗﺒﻞ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ‪...‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺻــﺎﺭﻭﺍ‬ ‫ﻳﺘﺮﺍﺟﻔﻮﻥ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﺭﺟﻔـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺧـﺎﺋﻔﻴﻦ ﻛﺨـﻮﻑ ﺍﻟﻨـﺎﺭ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺎﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺍﺳﺄﻟﻚ ﺳﺆﺍﻝ ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪١٩ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﺳـﺄﻝ‪ - ..‬ﻃﺒﻌـﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﺑﻴﻦ ﻛﻼﻣﻚ‪ -‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺍﺧﺘـﺮﺕﹸ ﻗﻨـﺎﺗﻜﻢ ﻷﻧﻨـﻲ ﺃﻋﺘﺒﺮﻫـﺎ ﺻـﺮﻳﺤﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﻣﻌﺎﺭﺿﺔ ﻟﻤﻮﺍﻗﻔﻲ‪ ..‬ﻓﺄﻧﺖ ﺍﺳﺄﻝ ﺃﻱ ﺷﻲﺀ ﻟﺪﻳﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻲ ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ ﻣﻌﺎﹺﺭﺿـﺔ ﻟﻤﻮﺍﻗﻔـﻚ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻷﺣﻴﺎﻥ ﻧﹸﺘﱠﻬ‪‬ﻢ ﺃﻧﱠﻨﺎ ﺻﺪﺭﻳﻮﻥ ﻣﻦ ﺣﻴﺚ ﻻ ﻧﻨﺘﻤﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺖ ﻭﻟـﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﻨﺎﺓ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻴﻤﺎ ﻳﺘﻌﻠﻖ ﺑﺘﻜﻠﻴـﻒ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺗﻮﻓﻴﻖ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ‪ ..‬ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻛﻠﱠﻔـﻪ؟ ﻫـﻞ ﻫـﻮ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﺃﻡ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻫـﺎﺩﻱ ﺍﻟﻌـﺎﻣﺮﻱ؟ ﺃﻡ ﺍﻻﺛﻨـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻣﻌـﺎﹰ ﻧﻔـﺲ ﻃﺮﻳﻘـﺔ ﻋﺒـﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ؟ ﻛﻴـﻒ ﻛﺎﻧـﺖ ﻃﺮﻳﻘـﺔ‬ ‫ﺗﻜﻠﻴﻔﻪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻭﻻﹰ‪ :‬ﻳﻮﺟـﺪ‬ ‫ﻃﺮﻓﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﻭﺍﻟﺒﺮﻟﻤﺎﻥ ﺃﻱ ﻛﺘﻞ‪ ..‬ﻟﻨﺴﻤﻴﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ‬ ‫‪ ٢٠‬ﺃﻓﻀﻞ ﻣﻦ ﺗﺴﻤﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺒﺮﻟﻤﺎﻥ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻞ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ ﺑﺪﻭﻥ ﺍﺳﺘﺜﻨﺎﺀ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺟﻤﺎ ﹰﻻ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻏﻠﺒﻬﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺟﻤـﺎﻻﹰ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﺧﺘﺎﺭﺕ ﺍﻟﻜﺘـﻞ ﺷﺨﺼـﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﺧﺘـﺎﺭﺕ ﻗﺼـﻲ ﻭﻏﻴـﺮﻩ ﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺷﺤﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺬﻳﻦ ﺭﺷﺤﻮﻫﻢ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺷﻴﺎﻉ ﺍﻟﺴﻮﺩﺍﻧﻲ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺣﺴـﻨﺖ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻑ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻧﻲ ﺍﻟﺜﱡﻮﺍﺭ ﺭﻓﻀﻮﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺜﻮﺍﺭ ﻟﻢ ﻳﺨﺘﺎﺭﻭﺍ ﺃﺷﺨﺎﺻﺎﹰ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﻠﻨﺘﻨﺰﻝ ﻗﻠﻴﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﺍﺧﺘﺎﺭﻭﺍ ﻣﻮﺍﺻﻔﺎﺕ ﺍﻧﻄﺒﻘﺖ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻓﻼﻥ ﻭﻓـﻼﻥ‬ ‫ﻭﻓـﻼﻥ ﺍﺧﺘـﺎﺭﻭﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻓﺮﻓﹶﻀﹶـﻬﻢ ﻫـﺆﻻﺀ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬـﺬﺍ ﻳ‪‬ـﺮﻓﹸﺾ ﻭﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻳﻮﺍﻓﻖ ﻭﻫﺬﺍ ﻳﻮﺍﻓﻖ ﻭﻫـﺬﺍ ﻳ‪‬ـﺮﻓ‪‬ﺾ ﻭﻫﻜـﺬﺍ‪ ..‬ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣﺘـﻰ؟ ﻗـﻞ‬ ‫ﻟﻲ‪ ..‬ﻳﻮﻡ ﺃﻡ ﻳﻮﻣﺎﻥ ﺃﻭ ﺷﻬﺮ‪ ،‬ﺷﻬﺮﺍﻥ ﺃﻭ ﻋﺸﺮﺓ ﺃﻭ ﻋﺸـﺮﻭﻥ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﺳﻨﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺳﻨﺘﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﻛﻢ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ‪ ..‬ﻭﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣﺘـﻰ؟ ﻭﻃﺒﻌـﹰﺎ ﻋﻨـﺎﺩﺍﹰ؛ ﺫﺍﻙ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮ‪‬ﺷﱢﺢ ﻭﻫﺬﺍ ﻋﻨﺎﺩﺍﹰ ﺑﻪ ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻓﺾ ﻭﻛـﺬﻟﻚ ﺍﻟﻌﻜـﺲ‪ ،‬ﻓـﺈﻟﻰ ﻣﺘـﻰ ‪٢١‬‬

‫ﻭﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﺑﻬﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻮﺿﻊ؟ ﺍﻟﺤﺮﻕ ﻭﺍﻟﺼﻠﺐ ﻭﺍﻟﻘﺘﻞ ﻭﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﻓﺎﺳـــﺪﻭﻥ ﻭﻳﺴـــﺮﻗﻮﻥ ﻭﻳﻘﻨﺼـــﻮﻥ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺸـــﻬﺪﺍﺀ ﻭﺍﻟـــﺪﻣﺎﺀ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻻﻋﺘﻘــﺎﻻﺕ‪ ..‬ﺇﻟــﻰ ﻣﺘــﻰ؟ ﻭﺷــﻤﺎﺗﺔ ﺍﻟﺠﻴــﺮﺍﻥ ﻭﺷــﻤﺎﺗﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻻﺣﺘﻼﻝ‪ ..‬ﺇﻟﻰ ﻣﺘﻰ ﻳﻌﻨﻲ؟ ﻫـﻞ ﻟـﻪ ﻓﺘـﺮﺓ؟ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ ﺍﻋﺘﹶﺒ‪‬ﺮ‪‬ﹸﺗـﻪ‬ ‫ﺣ ﱠﻞ ﻭﺳ ‪‬ﻂ ﺍﺿﻄﺮﺍﺭﻱ‪ ،‬ﻟﻢ ﺍﹸﻭﺍﻓ‪‬ـﻖ‪ ‬ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺳ‪‬ـﻜﺘ ﹸﺖ ﻋﻨـﻪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻷﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ ﻗﺪ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻜﻮﻥ ﺣﻼﹰ ﻭﺍﷲ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻟﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺑﺎﻟﺘﺎﻟﻲ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﻛﻠﱠﻔﻪ؟ ﺗﻮﺟـﺪ ﺁﻟﻴـﺎﺕ ﺩﺳـﺘﻮﺭﻳﺔ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﺘﹶﻜﻠﻴﻒ ﺗﹶﻌﺮﻓﻬﺎ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺘﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺋــﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻤﻬﻮﺭﻳﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺭﺋﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﺠﻤﻬﻮﺭﻳﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺟـﺰﺍﻩ ﺍﷲ‬ ‫ﺧﻴﺮﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺫﻟﻚ ﻣﻌﻨﺎﻩ ﺃﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﻣﻮﺍﻓﻖ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ ﺃﻭ ﺭﺍﻓـﺾ‬ ‫ﻟﻪ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﻧﺘﻘ‪‬ﺺ ﻣﻨﻪ‪ ،‬ﻛﺸﺨﺺ ﻫـﻮ ﻻ ﺑـﺄﺱ ﺑـﻪ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‬ ‫‪ ٢٢‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ ﻣﻠﻔﺎﺕ ﻓﺴﺎﺩ ﺃﻭ ﻛﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ ﻷﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺣﻠـﺔ‬

‫ﺻــﻌﺒﺔ ﻭﻳﺠــﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻘــﻮ‪‬ﻱ ﻗﻠﺒــﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭ‪‬ﻳﺠــﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻘــﻒ‪ ‬ﻣــﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻈــﺎﻫﺮﻳﻦ ﻭﺍﻟﺜــﻮﺍﺭ‪ ،‬ﺩﻣــﺎﺋﻬﻢ ﻭﻣﻌﺘﻘﻠــﻴﻬﻢ ﻭﻣﻼﺣﻘــﺎﺗﻬﻢ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﺧﺘﻄﺎﻓﻬﻢ ﻭﻗﻨﺼﻬﻢ ‪ -‬ﺇﻥ ﺟﺎﺯ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺒﻴﺮ‪ -‬ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺿـﺪﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻛـﻞ‬ ‫ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻷﻣﻮﺭ ﻳﺠﺐ ﺃﻥ ﺗﹸﻜﺸﹶﻒ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﺠﺐ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺴ‪‬ﻠﹶﻢ ﻣﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹸﺘـﻞ‬ ‫ﺷﻌﺐ ﻭﻳﻨﺠﻮ ﻣﻨﻬﺎ ﺳﺎﻟﻤﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﺠـﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻃﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺠـﻴﺶ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻃﺔ ﺣﻴﻦ ﻳﻘﻮﻟﻮﻥ‪ :‬ﻻ ﺗﹸﺤﺮﻗﻮﺍ ﻭﻳﻌﺘﻘﻠـﻮﻥ ﺷﺨﺼـﺎﹰ ﻓﻬـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻋﺘﻘﺎﻝ ﻣﺸﺮﻭﻉ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺜﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﻳ‪‬ﺼـﻠﹶﺐ ﺷـﺨﺺ ﻭﻳﻌﺘﻘﻠﻮﻧـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻣﺸﺮﻭﻉ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﺣﻴﻨﻤﺎ ﻳﻮﺍﺟﻬﻚ ﺃﻋـﺰﻻﹰ ﻭﺗﹶﻀـﺮﺑﻪ ﺑﻄﻠﻘـﺔ! ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫‪‬ﻳﻔﺘــﺮﺽ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺎﺳ‪‬ــﺐ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛــﺬﻟﻚ ﺍﻟــﺬﻱ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﹶﺘﻘ‪‬ــﻞ ﻭﺍﻟــﺬﻱ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺨﺘﹶﻄ‪‬ﻒ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻓﻘﻂ ﺍﻟﻘﻮﺍﺕ ﺍﻷﻣﻨﻴﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺍﺳـﺘﻬﺪ‪‬ﻓﹶﺘﻬﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻣـﺎ ﻳﺴـﻤﻮﻧﻬﻢ ﺑـﺎﻟﻄﺮﻑ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻟـﺚ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﺤـﺪ ﺍﻵﻥ ﻧﺤـﻦ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻧﻌﺮﻑ ﻣﻦ ﻫﻮ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻑ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻟﺚ‪ ..‬ﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﹶﺴ‪‬ﺮ ﻟﻨﺎ‪٢٣ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋـﺮﻑ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄـﺮﻑ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻟـﺚ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺤﻤـﺮ ﺃﻭ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻮﺩ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺰﺭﻕ ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﺍﻋﺘﹸﺒﹺﺮﻭﺍ ﻣﻨﻬﻢ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻲ ﻣﻴـﺰﺓ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟـﺰﺭﻕ؟ ﻟـﺪﻳﻬﺎ ﻛﺒﻴـﺮ ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ ﺗﹸﺨﻄـﺊ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ ﻟﻬـﺎ‪:‬‬ ‫ﺗﻮﻗﻔﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﻋﻨﺪﻣﺎ ﺗﹶﻔﻌﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ ﺟﻴﺪ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ ﻟﻬـﺎ‪ :‬ﺷـﻜﺮﺍﹰ ﺍﻣﺸـﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﻟﻜﻦ ﺃﻭﻟﺌﻚ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﻬﻢ ﺭﺃﺱ‪ ،‬ﻭﺣﺘـﻰ ﻟـﻮ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻫﻨﺎﻟـﻚ ﺭﺃﺱ‬ ‫ﻓﻬﻮ ﻣﺨﻔﻲ ﻻ ﻳﺴﺘﻄﻴﻊ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻬﺎ‪ :‬ﻛﻔﻰ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻲ ﻓﺘﺮﺓ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻔﺘﺮﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﺍﻋﺘﺒﺮﻫﻢ ﻃﺮﻓـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﺛﺎﻟﺜـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻻ ﺍﹸﺭﻳـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺭﺟـﻊ ﻟﻬـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺿـﻮﻉ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ‬ ‫ﻟﻨﺘﺤـﺪﺙ ﺣـﻮﻝ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ‪ ،‬ﻗﻠـ ﹶﺖ ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻤﻬﻮﺭﻳﺔ ﻫﻮ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻛﻠﱠﻔﻪ‪ ،‬ﻣﻮﻗﻒ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ ﻣﺘﺒـﺎﻳﻦ‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﻣﺎ ﻳﺒﺪﻭ ﻟﻐﺎﻳﺔ ﺍﻵﻥ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺟﺪﺍﹰ ﻣﺘﺒﺎﻳﻦ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٢٤‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺘﻚ ﺩﺍﻋﻢ ﺭﺑﻤﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﻛﻤﺎ ﹸﻗﻠـﺖﹶ ﺟﻨﺎﺑـﻚ‬ ‫ﺳـﺎﻛﺖ ﻋـﻨﻬﻢ ﺑﺸـﺮﻁ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﻜـﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻣﺴـﺘﻘﻠﺔ‪ ،‬ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫ﻣﺠﻤﻞ ﺍﻟﻨﻮﺍﺏ ﻭﻓﻲ ﻣﺠﻤﻞ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﻫﻢ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻘﺒﻠﻮﻥ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺑﻬـﺬﻩ‬ ‫ﺍﻵﻟﻴﺔ ﻭﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺸــﻌﺐ‬ ‫ﻳﺤﺎﻛﻤﻬﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﻗـﻒ ﺍﻟﻤﻨﺎﺳـﺐ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ ﺗﹸ ‪‬ﻤـ ‪‬ﺮﺭ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻻﹸﺳﺒﻮﻉ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻌ‪‬ﺠﹺﺒﻨــﻲ ﻭﺍﹸﻛﺮﺭﻫــﺎ ﻧــﺮﻣﻴﻬﻢ ﻓــﻲ ﺣﺎﻭﻳــﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻨﻔﺎﻳــﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﺃﻱ‬ ‫ﺷﺨﺺ ﻻ ﻳﻮﺍﻓﻖ ﻧﺮﻣﻴﻪ ﻓﻴﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺑ‪‬ـﺪ‪ ‬ﻣـﻦ ﺇﻧﻬـﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼـﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺑ‪‬ﺪ ﻣﻦ ﺇﻧﻬـﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼـﺔ ﻭﺇﻻ ﻓـﺎﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﺳـﻴﻨﺘﻬﻲ‪ ،‬ﻳﻨﺘﻬـﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﻜﻞ ﺍﻟﻤﻌﺎﻳﻴﺮ ﻭﺑﻜﻞ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺎﻳﻴﺲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﺃﻧﻬـﺖ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼـﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻳﻘﺔ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺍﺧﺘﺎﺭ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀﻩ ﺑﻬﺎ؟ ‪٢٥‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺗﻌـﺎﻭﻥ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻷﻛــﺮﺍﺩ ﻗﻠــﻴﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﺗﻤﻨــﻰ ﻣــﻨﻬﻢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﺘﻌــﺎﻭﻧﻮﺍ ﻭﻛﻔــﺎﻫﻢ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻻ ﻳﺄﺗﻲ ﺑـﺎﻟﻜﺮﺩﻱ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺎﻟﺴـﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﻳـﺄﺗﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻜﺮﺩﻱ ﻭﺑﺎﻟﺴﻨﻲ؛ ﻷﻥ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﻣﻜﻮﻧـﺎﺕ ﻓﺴﻴﻔﺴـﺎﺀ ﻋﺮﺍﻗﻴـﺔ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺑ‪‬ـﺪ‪ ‬ﻣﻨﻬـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻏﻴـﺮ ﻣﺘﺤـﺰﺑﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻓـﻼﻥ ﻭﻓـﻼﻥ ﻭﻓـﻼﻥ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻜﺬﺍﺋﻴﻴﻦ ﻻ ﺃﺭﻳـﺪ ﺃﻥ ﺃﺫﻛـﺮﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﺃﻛـﺮﺍﺩ ﻳـﺄﺗﻲ ﺑﻬـﻢ ﺃﻛـﺮﺍﺩﺍﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﺳﻨﺔﹰ ﺷﻴﻌﺔ ﻻ ﻣﺸﻜﻠﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺤﺰﺏ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧﻲ ﻭﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺠﻬـﺔ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧﻴـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ ﻻ ﺗﹸﻤﺜـﻞ ﺍﻟﺸـﻌﺐ‪ ،‬ﺷـﻠﻊ ﻗﻠـﻊ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺗﹸﻤﺜﻞ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ‪ ،‬ﻓﻴﺄﺗﻲ ﺑﻬﻢ ﻣﺴﺘﻘﻠﻮﻥ ﻟﻴﺤﻜﻤﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ ﻳ‪‬ـﺘﺤﻜﻢ‬ ‫ﺑﻬﻢ ﺍﻟﺤﺰﺏ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻞ ﻳـﺘﺤﻜﻢ ﺑﻬـﻢ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﻓﻘـﻂ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺣ‪‬ــ ‪‬ﺪﺙ ﻭﹶﺗﺤ ﱠﻜﻤــﺖ ﺑﻬــﻢ ﺍﻷﺣــﺰﺍﺏ ﻋﻨــﺪﻫﺎ ﻟــﻦ ﺃﺳــﺘﻄﻴﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻜﻮﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﺳﺄﻓﻌﻞ ﻣﺎ ﻓﻌﻠﻪ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﻭﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺣﻀـﺮﺗ ‪‬ﻚ ﻗﹸﻠـﺖﹶ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳـﺪﺓ ﺍﻷﺧﻴـﺮﺓ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﺍﺗﹼﺠﺎﻫﺎﹰ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟﻢ ﺗﺘﻢ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻨﻘﺎﻁ ﺧﻼﻝ ﺍﻻﹸﺳﺒﻮﻉ ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺒـﻞ‬ ‫‪ ٢٦‬ﻓﺴ‪‬ﻨﹶﻨﹾﺰﹺﻝﹸ ﻭﻧﻄﻮ‪‬ﻕ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺨﻀﺮﺍﺀ ﺑﺎﻋﺘﺼﺎﻣﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬﻞ ﺗﹶﻌﺘﻘـﺪ‪ ‬ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫـﺬﻩ‬

‫ﺍﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳﺪﺓ ﻗﺪ ﺃﻋﻄﺖ ﺩﺍﻓﻌﺎﹰ ﺃﻭ ﺣﱠﻔﺰﺕ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋـﻼﻭﻱ ﻭﻗـ ‪‬ﻮﺕ‬ ‫ﻣﻮﻗﻔﻪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻡ ﺃﻧﱠﻬﺎ ﺃﺣﺮ‪‬ﺟﺘﻪ ﻭﻭﺿﹶﻌ‪‬ﺘﻪ ﺑﻤﻮﺿﻊ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺻـﻌﺐ ﺃﻣـﺎﻡ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﺍﻻﹸﺧﺮﻯ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻟﺴـﺖ ﻧﺎﻃﻘـﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﺳﻤﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻛﺘﻮﻗﻊ ﻫـﻮ ﻣﺘﺨـﻮﻑ ﻭﻣﺴـﺘﻔﺎﺩ ﻭﻣﺮﺗـﺎﺡ ﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ ﺑـﻴﻦ ﻟﺒـﻴﻦ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺖ ﺗﻌﻠـﻢ ﻭﻛﻤـﺎ ﺗﹶﻘـﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ‬ ‫ﻣﺘﻘﻠﺐ ﺍﻟﻴﻮﻡ ﻣﻌﻪ ﻭﻏﺪﺍﹰ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺿـﺪﻩ؛ ﻷﻧﻨـﻲ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻟﺤـﻖ ﻭﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﻌﻞ ﺍﻟﺼﺤﻴﺢ‪ ،‬ﺍﻓﺮﹺﺽﹾ ﻣ‪ ‬ﻦ؟ ﺍﻟﻤـﺎﻟﻜﻲ ﺩﻋﻨـﻲ ﺃﺫﻛـﺮﻩ ﻟـﻚ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻣﺸﻰ ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ ﺃﺭﺳﻠﺖﹸ ﻟﻪ ﻛﺘﺎﺏ ﺷﻜﺮ‪ ،‬ﻣﺸـﻰ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ‬ ‫ﺧﺎﻃﺊ ﺃﺻﺪﺭﺕﹸ ﺑﺤﻘﻪ ﮔـﺼـﮕـﻮﺻﺔ‪ .‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺍﹸﻋﺎﺩﻱ ﺷﺨﺼـﺎﹰ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺑﻞ ﺍﹸﻋﺎﺩﻱ ﻣﻮﻗﻔﺎﹰ ﻭﺃﻋﺎﺩﻱ ﻗﺮﺍﺭﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﺇﻥ ﻛﺎﻥ ﻟﺼﺎﻟﺢ ﺍﻟﺸﻌﺐ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﻣﺪﺣﻪ ﻭﺃﺷﻜﺮﻩ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺟﻨﺎﺑـﻚ ﺗﻘـﻮﻝ ﻋـﻦ ﻧﻔﺴـﻚ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﻣﺘﻘﻠـﺐ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺃﺗﺒﺎﻋﻚ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺎﺗﺒﻮﻥ ﻣ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﻳﻘﻮﻝﹸ ﺫﻟﻚ‪ ،‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺗﹶﻘﺼـﺪﻩ ﺑﻜﻮﻧـﻚ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﺘﻘﻠﺐ؟ ‪٢٧‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻳﺘﺼـﻮﺭﻭﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺃﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﻣ‪‬ﺘﻘﻠﺐ‪ ،‬ﻷﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﻣﺜ ﹰﻼ ﺃﻗـﻒ‪ ‬ﻣﻌـﻚ ﻷﻧـﻚ ﻣﺎﺷـﻲ ﺑﺎﻟﻌـﺪﻝ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺣﻴﻨﻤﺎ ﺗﹸﺨﻄﺊ ﺃﻗﻮﻝﹸ ﻟﻚ‪ :‬ﺇﻧﱠﻚ ﺃﺧﻄﺄﺕ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬـﻢ ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ ﺃﻗـﻮﻝ‬ ‫ﻟﻚ ﺇﻧﻚ ﺃﺧﻄﺄ ﹶﺕ ﻳﺘﺼﻮﺭﻭﻥ ﺃﱠﻧﻨـﻲ ﺍﻧﻘﻠﺒـ ﹸﺖ ﺿـﺪﻙ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺃﻧﱠﻨﻲ ﺣـﻴﻦ ﺃﻗـﻮﻝ ﺇﻧﱠـﻚ‪ ‬ﺃﺧﻄـﺄﺕ ﻗـﺪ ﺍﻧﻘﻠﺒـ ﹸﺖ ﺿـﺪﻙ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻌﻜﺲ ﻷﻧﻨﻲ ﺃﺣﺘﺮﻣﻚ ﻭﺃﹸﺣﺒﻚ ﻗﻠﺖ ﻟﻚ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺧﻄـﺄ ﻟﻜـﻲ‬ ‫ﺗﹸﺼﺤﺢ‪ ‬ﻣﺴﺎﺭﻙ‪ ،‬ﺑﺮﺃﻳﻲ ﺧﻄﺄ ﺑﻐﺾ ﺍﻟﻨﻈﺮ ﻋﻦ ﺭﺃﻳﻚ ﺃﻧﺖ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺣـﻴﻦ ﺍﹸﺻـﺤ ‪‬ﺢ ﻣﺴـﺎﺭﻱ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻜـ ‪‬ﻦ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻌﻮﺩ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺘﻌﺎﻭﻥ‪ ‬ﺑﻴﻨﻨﺎ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻧﻴﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺣﺪ ﹶﺙ ﻓـﻲ ﺳـﺎﺣﺎﺕ ﺍﻻﻋﺘﺼـﺎﻡ‬ ‫ﻭﺳﺎﺣﺎﺕ ﺍﻻﺣﺘﺠﺎﺝ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺣﺴـﻨﺖ‪..‬‬ ‫‪ ٢٨‬ﺃﺣﺴﻨﺖ ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﹸﺳـﺒﻮﻉ \"ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟـﺰﺭﻕ\" ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺸـﺎﻛﻞ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌـﺪﻫﺎ‬

‫ﺭﺟﻊ ﻭﺻﺎﺭ ﺗﻨﺴـﻴﻖ ﻭﻣﺸـﻰ ﺍﻟﺤـﺎﻝ‪ ..‬ﺻـﺤﻴﺢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄﺮﻓﻴﻦ ﺃﺻﺤﺎﺏ ﻋﻨﻒ ﻗﻠـﻴﻼﹰ ﻭﻋﺎﻃﻔـﺔ ﺷـﺪﻳﺪﺓ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﻣـﻊ‬ ‫ﺫﻟــﻚ ﺃﺳــﺘﻄﻴﻊ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﻗــﻮ ﹶﻝ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻤﻴــﺎﻩ ﻋــﺎﺩﺕ ﺇﻟــﻰ ﻣﺠﺎﺭﻳﻬــﺎ‬ ‫ﺑﺼﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﺧﺮﻯ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻧﻌـﻮﺩ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻃﺮﻳﻘـﺔ ﺗﺸـﻜﻴﻞ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻋﻼﻭﻱ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﻜﺘﻞ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳـﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻳ‪‬ـﺮﺩ‪ ‬ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣﺴـﺎﻣﻌﻚ‪‬‬ ‫ﻫــﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺤــﺪﻳﺚ‪ ،‬ﺗﹶﻌﺘﻘــ ‪‬ﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫــﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺔ ﻫــﻲ ﺣﻜﻮﻣــﺔ‬ ‫ﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﺃﻭ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﻫـﻲ ﻣـﻦ ﺗﹶﺨﺘـﺎﺭ‪ ‬ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‪ ،‬ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻣـﻦ ﻳ‪ ‬ﹾﺸـﻴﻊ‪ ‬ﻫﻜـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺣﺪﻳﺚ ﺑﻴﻦ ﺍﻷﻭﺳﺎﻁ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳـﺪ؟ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺃﻳﺎﺩ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ ﻭﺇﻟـﻰ ﺍﻟﻴـﻮﻡ‪ ،‬ﻛـﻞ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺗﺘﺸـﻜﻞ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺑـﺪﻭﻥ‬ ‫ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﻻ ﺗﺘﺸﻜﻞ ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﻗﻮﻟﻬﺎ ﻟـﻚ‪ .‬ﺳـﻮﺍﺀ ﺑﻤـﻮﺍﻓﻘﺘﻲ ﺃﻭ ﺑﻌـﺪﻡ‬ ‫ﻣــﻮﺍﻓﻘﺘﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜــﻦ ﻻ ﺗﺘﺸــﻜﻞ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟــﻢ ﻳﺘــﺪﺧﻞ ﺑﺼــﻮﺭﺓ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﺑﺄﹸﺧﺮﻯ‪ ،‬ﻫﻞ ﺗﻌﻠﻢ ﻣﺎﺫﺍ ﺃﻓﻌﻞ ﻓـﻲ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻷﺣﻴـﺎﻥ؟ ﺃﻗـﻮﻝ ﻻ ‪٢٩‬‬

‫ﺃﺭﻳﺪﻩ ﻟﻜﻲ ﻳﻘﺒﻠـﻮﺍ ﺑـﻪ ﻭﻳﺼـﻴﺮ )ﻭﻳﻤﺸـﻲ(‪ .‬ﻭﺍﺿـﺢ؟! ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺗﺪﺧﻞ ﻻ ﺗﹶﻤﺸﻲ ﺍﻷﻣﻮﺭ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﺬﻟﻚ ﺳ‪‬ﻜﹶﺘﺖﹸ ﻭﺳ‪‬ﻜﹶﺘ ﹸﺖ ﻭﺩﺭﺳﻲ‬ ‫ﺑﻘﹸﻢ ﻭﻻ ﺃﺗﺪﺧﻞ ﻻ ﺃﺗﺪﺧﻞ ﻭﻟﻜﻦ ﺇﻟﻰ ﻣﺘﻰ؟ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻷﺣـﺪﺍﺙ‬ ‫ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺗﺴﺘﻤﺮ ﺳﻨﺘﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻓﺘﹶﺪ‪‬ﺧﹶﻠﹾ ﹸﺖ ﻗﻠﻴﻼﹰ ﻗﺪﺣﺔ ﺻﻐﻴﺮﺓ ﻓﺘﹶ ‪‬ﺤ ‪‬ﺮ ﹶﻛـﺖ‪‬‬ ‫ﺍﻷُﻣﻮﺭ ﻗﻠﻴﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ ﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﺳﺘﹸﻜ ‪‬ﻤﻞ ﺃﻡ ﻻ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻞ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﺫﻟـﻚ ﻣـﺎ ﻳ‪‬ﻘـﺎﻝ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻷﻭﺳـﺎﻁ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺎﺳﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﻬﺎ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭﻳﻴﻦ ﻭﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ‪ ،‬ﻫﻞ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫﻲ ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻟـﻮ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺗﻜـﻦ ﺻـﺪﺭﻳﺔ ﻓﺴـﻮﻑ ﻳﻘﻮﻟـﻮﻥ ﺻـﺪﺭﻳﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣﺸـﻜﻠﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﻥ‬ ‫ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻫﻲ ﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﺻﺪﺭﻳﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻗﹸ ﹾﻞ ﺻﺪﺭﻳﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺑﺄﺱ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﻟﻜـﻢ ﻋﻼﻗـﺔ ﺑﺎﺧﺘﻴـﺎﺭ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮﺓ ﺃﻭ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻣﺒﺎﺷﺮﺓ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻓـﻲ‬ ‫‪ ٣٠‬ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻋـﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒـﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ ﻭﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻫـﻢ ﻟﻴﺴـﻮﺍ‬

‫ﺻـﺪﺭﻳﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻞ ﻗﹸﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ‪ :‬ﺍﺧﺘـﺎﺭﻭﻫﻢ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻌـﺎﺩﻳﻦ ﻵﻝ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﻭﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﻤﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﻓﻘﻂ‪ ،‬ﻫﻜـﺬﺍ ﻻ ﺃﻋـﺮﻓﻬﻢ ﻭﻟـﻢ ﺃﺭﻫـﻢ‬ ‫ﻭﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ ﻋﻨﻬﻢ ﺷﻴﺌﹰﺎ ﻧﻬﺎﺋﻴـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺃﺷـﻜﺎﻟﻬﻢ ﻻ ﺃﻋﺮﻓﻬـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﺍﺳﻤﺎﺋﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺻﺪ‪‬ﻗﻨﻲ ﻻ ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺍﺭﺓ ﺃﻋﺮﻓﻬـﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﻋـﺮﻑ ﺍﺳـﻢ ﻭﻻ‬ ‫ﺍﺳﻢ ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺍﺭﺓ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻋﺮﻑ ﺍﺳﻢ ﺍﻟﺸﺨﺺ ﻭﻟﻢ ﺃﺭﻩ ﻭﻟﻢ ﺃﺟﻠـﺲ‬ ‫ﻣﻌﻪ ﺃﻭ ﺃﻟﺘﹶﻖﹺ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﺇﺿﺎﻓﺔ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺃﻧﻲ ﹸﻗﻠـﺖﹸ ﻟﻬـﻢ‪ :‬ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗـﺄﺗﻮﺍ‬ ‫ﺑﻤ‪‬ﻌـﺎﺩ‪ ‬ﻵﻝ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ ﻭﺗﺨﺘـﺎﺭﻭﻩ ﻭﻟﻜـﻦ ﻣﺘﺨﺼﺼـﹰﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺑـﺎﻟﺮﻏﻢ‬ ‫ﺫﻟﻚ ﻗﻴﻞ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺍﺭﺍﺕ ﻭﺯﺍﺭﺍﺕ ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭ! ﻓﻬـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸـﻲﺀ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﻘﺎﻝ ﻻ ﻣ‪‬ﻔﺮ‪ ‬ﻣﻨﻪ‪ ،‬ﺧﺼﻮﺻﺎﹰ ﻓﻲ ﻗﻨﺎﺗﻜﻢ ﻫﺬﺍ ﻋﺎﺩﻱ ﻭﻃﺒﻴﻌﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺭﺟﻌﺖ ﻣﺮﺓ ﺛﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻗﻨﺎﺗﻨﺎ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﻛﻞ ﺣﺎﻝ ﺍﻋﺘﺮﺍﺽ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻃﺮﻳﻘـﺔ ﺗﺸـﻜﻴﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﻭﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ‪ ،‬ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﺃﻳﻀﹰﺎ ﻣﻌﺘﺮﺿﻮﻥ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ ﻃﺒﻌﺎﹰ‪٣١ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻞ ﻳﻤﻜـﻦ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺮﻗـﻞ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻻﻋﺘـﺮﺍﺽ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺔ؟ ﻫــﻞ ﻫﻨــﺎﻙ ﺣــﺮﺍﻙ ﺳﻴﺎﺳــﻲ ﻣــﻊ ﺍﻷﻃــﺮﺍﻑ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺰﻋﺎﻣﺎﺕ ﻣﻦ ﺃﺟﻞ ﺗﻨﻘﻴﺔ ﺍﻷﺟﻮﺍﺀ ﻭﺗﻤﺮﻳﺮ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﻼ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻣﻤﻜـﻦ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫـﻢ ﻣﺼـﺮﻭﻥ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﻘﺒﻠـﻮﻥ ﺣﺘـﻰ ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﻜﻦ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻗﺎﻝ ﻟﻦ ﻳﻘﺒﻠﻮﺍ ﺣﺘﻰ ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻧﹶﺰﹶﻝﹶ ﺍﻟﻮﺣﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﻌﻨﻰ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﻻ ﺗﹶﻤ‪‬ﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻨﺘﻤﻨـﻰ ﺃﻥ ﺗﹶﻤ‪‬ـﺮ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻋﺴﻰ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﻜﻮ ‪‬ﻥ ﺣﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﺣﻞ ﻭﺭﺑﻤﺎ ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻋﻠﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻧﺘﻬــﺖ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼــﺔ ﻓﻬــﺬﺍ ﻫــﺪﻑ ﻛﺒﻴــﺮ ﻟﻺﺻــﻼﺣﻴﻴﻦ)‪(١‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﱡﺜـﻮﺍﺭ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺪﻑ ﻛﺒﻴـﺮ ﺟـﺪﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻋﺴـﻰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﻜـﻮﻥ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﺧﻼﻝ ﺍﻟﻌﺎﻡ ﺍﻟﺤـﺎﻟﻲ‪ ،‬ﺗﺠـﺮﻯ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﻣ‪‬ﺒﻜﱢـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫـﺬﺍ ﺃﻣـﺮ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﺟﺐ‪ ،‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻭﺍﺟﺐ؟ ﻷﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺟﻌﻴﺔ ﺩﻋﺖ ﺇﻟﻴـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﺸـﻌﺐ‬ ‫ﻳﺪﻋﻮ ﺇﻟﻴـﻪ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﺩﻋـﻮ ﺇﻟﻴـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛـﻞ ﻋﺎﻗـﻞ ﻳـﺪﻋﻮ ﺇﻟﻴـﻪ‪ ،‬ﻓـﺈﺫﺍ‬ ‫‪٣٢‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻭﺃﺷﺎﺭ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺘﻪ ﺇﻟﻰ ﻧﻔﺴﻪ‪.‬‬

‫ﺗﹶﺤﻘﱠﻘـﺖ ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ‪ -‬ﻟﻨﻘـﻞ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻋﻮﺍﻫﻨﻬـﺎ)‪ -(١‬ﺑـﺪﻭﻥ‬ ‫ﻣﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ ﻭﺻـﺎﺭﺕ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﻣ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻓـﺈﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﻟﱡﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ‪ -‬ﻃﺒﻌـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺑﻤـﺎ ﻫـﻢ ﺛـﻮﺍﺭ‪ -‬ﺳﻴﺤﺼـﻠﻮﻥ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺟﺪﻳـﺪﺓ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑــﺎﺕ ﺟﺪﻳــﺪﺓ ﺗﻔﻴــﺪﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺗﺤﻘﱢــﻖ ﻣﻄــﺎﻟﺒﻬﻢ ﻭﺗﺤﻘــﻖ‬ ‫ﺃﻫﺪﺍﻓﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻴﺲ ﻓﻴﻬـﺎ ﺗﺰﻭﻳـﺮ ﻭﻣـﺎ ﺷـﺎﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻓﻬـﺬﺍ ﻧﺠـﺎﺡ ﻛﺒﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﺟﺪﹰﺍ ﻟﻠﺜﻮﺭﺓ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻨﻴـﺎﹰ ﻭﺗﻘﻨﻴـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻫـﻞ ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﺍﺳـﺘﻌﺪﺍﺩ ﻹﺟـﺮﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﺧﻼﻝ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ ﺍﻟﺤﺎﻟﻴﺔ؟ ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻫـﻞ ﺗﹶﻌﺘﻘـﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻮﻋﺪ ﻣﻨﻄﻘﻲ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻧﻘﻮﻝ ﻓﻲ ﻧﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ ﺍﻟﺤﺎﻟﻴﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻱ ﺭﺋـﻴﺲ ﻭﺯﺭﺍﺀ‬ ‫ﻣﺆﻗـﺖ ﻳـﺄﺗﻲ ﻭﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺤﻘﱢـﻖ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺒ‪ ‬ﱢﻜـﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﻤﻔـﺮﻭﺽ‬ ‫ﻧﹸﻨﺤﻴﻪ ﻭﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺒﻘﻰ‪.‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺟﻤﻊ ﻋـﺎﻫ‪‬ﻦ‪ ،‬ﺃﻟﻘـﻰ ﺍﻟﻜـﻼﻡ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻋﻮﺍﻫﻨـﻪ‪ :‬ﺃﻟﻘـﺎﻩ ﺑـﻼ ﺗﻔﻜﻴـﺮ ﻭﻻ‬ ‫‪٣٣‬‬ ‫ﺭﻭﻳﺔ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﺍﻟﻤﻄﻠﻮﺏ ﺗﺤﺪﻳﺪﺍﹰ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺎﻡ ﺍﻟﻤﻄﻠﻮﺑـﺔ‬ ‫ﻣﻦ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ‪ ،‬ﺇﺿﺎﻓﺔ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺗﺤﺪﻳـﺪ ﻣﻮﻋـﺪ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﺍﻓﺘﹶﺮ‪ ‬ﹾﺿﺖﹶ ﺣﻀﺮﺗ ‪‬ﻚ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﺳﻴﻜﻮﻥ ﻓﻲ ﻧﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﻫـﺬﻩ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻷﻗﻞ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺟﻤﻴﻞ‪ ..‬ﺟﻤﻴﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﻳﻔﺘﺮﺽ ﺃﻧﱠـﻪ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻳﻜﻤـﻞ ﺩﻭﺭﺗـﻪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻷﻧﻬﻢ ﻓﻨﻴﺎﹰ ﻗﺪ ﻻ ﻳﻜﻮﻧﻮﺍ ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪﻳﻦ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﻻ‪ ..‬ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺿﻮﻉ ﻻ ﻳﻮﺟﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺇﻟـﻎﹺ ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﻠﻢ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﺷـﺮﻳﻄﺔ ﺑﻘـﺎﺀ ﺍﻟـﺪﻋﻢ ﻫـﻮ ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢﺮﺓ ﻓﻲ ﻧﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻫـﻮ ﻣﺆﻗـﺖ‬ ‫‪ ٣٤‬ﻭﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﻣﺒﻜﺮﺓ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓﻲ ﻧﻬﺎﻳﺔ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻭﻻﹰ‪ :‬ﺍﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﻣ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢـﺮﺓ‪ .‬ﺛﺎﻧﻴـﹰﺎ‪ :‬ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻣﺆﻗﺘـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺣﻤﺎﻳـﺔ ﺍﻟﺜـﻮﺍﺭ ﻭﺣﻘـﻮﻗﻬﻢ؛‬ ‫ﻣﻌﺘﻘﻠــﻴﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﺷــﻬﺪﺍﺅﻫﻢ‪ ،‬ﻣﺨﺘﻄﻔــﻴﻬﻢ‪ ..‬ﻛــﻞ ﻫــﺬﺍ ﻳﺠــﺐ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻳ‪ ‬ﺤﻞ‪ ،‬ﻋﺪﻡ ﻣﺘﺎﺑﻌﺘﻬﻢ ﻭﻋـﺪﻡ ﻣﻼﺣﻘـﺘﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴﺸـﻴﺎﺕ‬ ‫ﻭﻻ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺤﺸﺪ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺠـﻴﺶ ﻭﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻃﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻘـﻮﺍﺕ‬ ‫ﺍﻻﻣﻨﻴـﺔ ﻭﻻ ﻣـﻦ ﻗﺒـﻞ ﺃﻱ ﺷـﺨﺺ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻣـﻦ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﻻ ﻣـﻦ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻌـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟـﺰﺭﻕ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟ ‪‬ﺴـﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟﺘ‪‬ﻴـﺎﺭ‪ ،‬ﺷـﻠﻊ ﻗﻠـﻊ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺘـﺎﺑﻌﻬﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﺣــﺪ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤــﺎ ﻳﻮﺟــﺪ ﻣــﺬﻧﺒﻮﻥ ﻭﺍﺣــﺪ ﺃﻭ ﺍﺛﻨــﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﻋﺸــﺮﺓ ﺃﻭ‬ ‫ﻋﺸﺮﻭﻥ‪ ،‬ﻳﻮﺟﺪ ﻗﻀﺎﺀ ﻫﻮ ﻣﻦ ﻳﺘﻌﺎﻣـﻞ ﻣﻌﻬـﻢ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﺗﻌﺎﻣـﻞ‬ ‫ﻣﻌﻬﻢ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻧﺖ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻱ ﻭﺍﺣﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺎﻡ ﻓﻘﻂ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺨـﺪﻣﺎﺕ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺤــﺎﻭﻝ ﺑــﺒﻌﺾ ﺍ ﹸﻻﻣــﻮﺭ ﺍﻟﺨﺪﻣﻴــﺔ‪ ،‬ﻣﺤﺎﺳــﺒﺔ ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳــﺪﻳﻦ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺮﺅﻭﺱ ﺍﻟﻜﺒﻴـﺮﺓ ﺑﺎﻟﺨﺼـﻮﺹ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳـﺄﺗﻲ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟـﺮﺅﻭﺱ ‪٣٥‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺼﻐﻴﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻓﻼﻥ ﻭﻓﻼﻥ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﺳـﺮﻕ ﻭﺭﻗـﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻭﺭﻗﺘـﻴﻦ)‪ ،(١‬ﺑـﻞ‬ ‫ﺻــﺎﺣﺐ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴــﺎﺭ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴــﺎﺭﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﻳــﺬﻫﺐ ﺇﻟــﻰ ﺍﺻــﺤﺎﺏ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴﺎﺭﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺮﺅﻭﺱ ﺍﻟﻜﺒﺎﺭ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﻧﻨﺘﻈﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻛﺰﻋﺎﻣﺎﺕ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺑﺪﺃ ﺑﺎﻟﻤﺤﺎﺳﺒﺔ؟!‬ ‫ﻻ ﺗﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻲ ﻣﻠﻴﺸﻴﺎﺕ ﻭﻗﺤﺔ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻫﻲ ﺍﻵﻟﻴﺔ ﺣﻴﻨﻤﺎ ﻋﻨﺪﻣﺎ ﻧﺴـﺄﻝ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‬ ‫ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ ﺗﻔﻌﻠـﻮﺍ ﻛـﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻳﻘﻮﻟـﻮﻥ ﺃﻧﱠﻨـﺎ ﺃﺣ‪‬ﻠﹾﻨـﺎ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻔـﺎﺕ ﺇﻟـﻰ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻘﻀﺎﺀ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺧـﻲ‪ ..‬ﺃﺳـﺘﺎﺫ‬ ‫ﺣﺴﺎﻡ‪ ..‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺟﺎﻫﺰ‪ ..‬ﻫﻞ ﺗﹸﺮﻳﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﹸﺣﺎﺳ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻬ‪‬ﻢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﹶﺗ ‪‬ﻮ ﱠﻛﻞ‪ ..‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﻛﺎﻥ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ ﻋﻠﻲ ﻓﺄﻗﻮﻝ ﺗﹶﻮ‪‬ﻛﱠﻞ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٣٦‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻣﺎﺋﺔ ﺩﻭﻻﺭ ﺃﻭ ﻣﺎﺋﺘﻴﻦ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ ﺗـﺄﺗﻲ‬ ‫ﻻﺣﻘﺎﹰ ﺗﻘﻮﻝ ﻟﻲ ﺃﻧﺖ ﻟﺴـﺖ ﻗﺎﺿـﻴﺎﹰ ﻭﻻ ﻣ‪‬ﺤﻜﻤـﺔ ﻭﻻ ﺭﺳـﻤﻴﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻭﻻ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺔ‪ ،‬ﺇﻣ‪‬ﺎ ﺃﻥ ﺗـﺪﻋﻮﻧﺎ ﻧﹶﺘﹶﺼـﺮ‪‬ﻑ ﻭﺗﹶﺴـﻜﹸﺘﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇ‪‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺘﺼﺮﻓﻮﻥ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻗﺼﺪﻱ ﻓـﻲ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻷﺣﻴـﺎﻥ ﺣـﻴﻦ ﻧﹸﺨﺎﻃـﺐ‬ ‫ﻭﻧﹸﺤﺎﻭﺭ ﺭﺋﻴﺲ ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺃﻭ ﺷﺨﺺ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺗﹸﺤﺎﺳﺒﻮﺍ ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳﺪﻳﻦ؟ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﺧﺘﺼـﺎﺹ ﺍﻟﻘﻀـﺎﺀ‪ ،‬ﻧﺤـﻦ‬ ‫ﺭﻓﻌﻨﺎ ﻣﻠﻔﺎﺗﻬﻢ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﻘﻀﺎﺀ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻘﻀـﺎﺀ ﻳﺤﺘـﺎﺝ‬ ‫ﺇﻟﻰ ﺩﻓﻌﺔ)‪ (١‬ﻗﻠﻴﻼﹰ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﺤﺘﺎﺝ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺩﻓﻌﺔ؟‬ ‫‪٣٧‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺩﻋﻢ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧـﺎ ﻣ‪‬ﺴـﺘﻌﺪ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ ﺃﺩﻓﻌﻪ ﻟﻜﻦ ﻻ ﺃﻧﻪ ﺃﺩﻋﻤﻪ ﺑﺎﻟﻤـﺎﻝ‪ ،‬ﻣﺴـﺘﻌﺪ ﺃﻥ ﺃﺩﻋﻤـﻪ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﻳﺸﺪ ﻣﻦ ﻋﺰﻣﻪ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﻣ‪‬ﺴﺘﻌﺪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺃﻗﻮﻝ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳﺒﺪﺃ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ ﻭﻟﻜﻦ ﻟﻴﺸﻤﻞ ﺍﻟﺘﻴﺎﺭ؛ ﻷﻥ ﻫـﺬﻩ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺸـﻜﻠﺔ ﺗﺘﻜـﺮﺭ ﺩﺍﺋﻤـﺎﹰ ﺣﻴﻨﻤـﺎ ﺍﹸﻃﺎﻟـﺐ ﻳـﺄﺗﻮﻥ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺍﻟﺘﻴـﺎﺭ‬ ‫ﻭﺳﺎﺋﺮﻭﻥ ﻭﺍﻷﺣﺮﺍﺭ ﻭﻳﺘﺮﻛﻮﻥ ﺍﻟﺒﻘﻴﺔ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﻠـﺲ ﻣـﻦ ﻫﻨـﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺫﺍﻙ ﻻ ﻳﺤﺪﺙ ﻟﻪ ﺷﻲﺀ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﺣـﺪﺓ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻷﺷـﻴﺎﺀ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﻤـﺔ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺫﹶﻛﺮﹶﺗﻬـﺎ‬ ‫ﺣﻀﺮﺗﻚ‪ ‬ﻓﻲ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻣﻦ ﻣـﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻭﺍﻟﻴـﻮﻡ ﻟـﻢ ﺗﹶـﺬﻛﺮﻫﺎ ﻭﻻ ﺃﻋﻠـﻢ‬ ‫ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ‪ ،‬ﺣﺼﺮ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﺡ ﺑﻴﺪ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺻـﺤﻴﺢ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﻣﻬﻢ ﺟﺪﺍﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻫﺬﺍ ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﺑﺪﺃ ﺑﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧﺎ ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻴﻒ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﺫﺍ ﺟـﺎﺀﺕ‬ ‫‪ ٣٨‬ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﻤﺆﻗﺘـﺔ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳـﺪﺓ‪ ،‬ﺍﻵﻥ ﺍﻟﻤﺆﻗﺘـﺔ ﻻ ﺗﻨﻔـﻊ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻞ‬

‫ﺍﻟﺠﺪﻳـﺪﺓ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺳـﺘﺄﺗﻲ ﻭﹶﺗﺠﻤـﻊ ﺍﻟﺴـﻼﺡ ﻣﻤـﻦ ﻫـﻢ ﺧـﺎﺭﺝ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟﺔ‪ ،‬ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﺇﺫﺍ ﺍﻋﺘﺒﺮﻭﻧﻲ ﻣﻦ ﺧـﺎﺭﺝ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟـﺔ ﻛﺎﻟﺴـﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﻭﻣـﺎ‬ ‫ﺷﺎﺑﻪ ﻓﺄﻧﺎ ﻣﺴﺘﻌﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺍﹸﺳ‪‬ﻠﱢﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﺴﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺗﹸﺴ‪‬ﻠﱢﻤﻬﺎ ﻻ ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﻣﺸﻜﻠﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺍﻟﺠـﻴﺶ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻃﺔ ﻳﺠــﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻜﻮﻧــﻮﺍ ﻋﻠــﻰ ﻗــﺪﺭ ﺍﻟﻤﺴــﺆﻭﻟﻴﺔ ﻻ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ‬ ‫‪‬ﻳﺨــﺎﻓﻮﺍ ﻣﺜﻠﻤــﺎ ﺣﺼــﻞ ﻣــﻦ ﺗﹶﺴــﻠﻴﻢ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺻــﻞ ﺃ‪‬ﻳــﺎﻡ ﻓــﻼﻥ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧﻲ)‪ (١‬ﻭﻻ ﻛﺬﺍ‪ ..‬ﻻ ﺃﺭﻳﺪ‪ ‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺗﻜﻠﻢ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺫﻟﻚ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺴﻼﺡ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻫﻮ ﺧﺎﺭﺝ ﺇﻃﺎﺭ ﺍﻟﺴـﻠﻄﺔ ‪ -‬ﻟـﻮ‬ ‫ﺍﻓﺘﺮﺿﻨﺎ‪ -‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﻓﻲ ﻳﺪ ﺳﺮﺍﻳﺎ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻡ ﻓﻘﻂ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘـﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ ﻟـﺪﻱ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻠﻄﺔ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻗﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﺃﺑﺪﺃ ﻛﺴ‪‬ﻨﹼﺔ ﺣﺴـﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﻣﺴـﺘﻌﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﺑـﺪﺃ‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺭﺋﻴﺲ ﺍﻟـﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺍﻷﺳـﺒﻖ ﻧـﻮﺭﻱ ﺍﻟﻤـﺎﻟﻜﻲ ﻭﻣـﺎ ﺣﺼـﻞ ﺃﺑـﺎﻥ‬ ‫ﻭﻻﻳﺘﻪ ﺍﻟﺜﺎﻧﻴﺔ ﻣﻦ ﺗﺴﻠﻴﻢ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺻﻞ ﻭﺻﻼﺡ ﺍﻟـﺪﻳﻦ ﻭﺍﻷﻧﺒـﺎﺭ ﺑﻴـﺪ ﺗﻨﻈـﻴﻢ‬ ‫‪٣٩‬‬ ‫ﺩﺍﻋﺶ ﺍﻹﺭﻫﺎﺑﻲ‪.‬‬

‫ﺃﻧﺎ‪ ،‬ﺍﹸﺳ‪‬ﻠﱢﻢ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﺡ ﻟﻠﺪﻭﻟﺔ ﻏﻴﺮ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼـﺎﺗﻴﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺗﹸﻄﺎﻟـﺐ‬ ‫ﺑﺤﻘﻮﻕ ﺷﻌﺒﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﻭﺗﹶﺨﺪﻡ ﺷﻌﺒﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﺘﻲ ﻟﻴﺴـﺖ ﺗﺒﻌﻴـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻴﺴـﺖ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﺸـﺮﻕ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟﻐـﺮﺏ ﻭﻟﻴﺴـﺖ ﻟﻠﺠﻨـﻮﺏ ﺃﻭ ﺍﻟﺸـﻤﺎﻝ‪ ..‬ﻣﺴـﺘﻌﺪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺃﺑﻮﻳـ ﹰﺔ؟ ﺑﺎﻟﺨﺪﻣـﺔ ﺃﹸﺳ‪‬ـﻠﱢﻤﻬﺎ ﺳـﻼﺣﻲ ﻓﺤﺴـﺐ ﻭﺇﻧﻤـﺎ ﺃﹸﺳ‪‬ـﻠﱢﻤﻬﺎ‬ ‫ﻧﻔﺴﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫــﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺔ ﺍﻟﺘــﻲ ﺃﺳــﻤﻴﻨﺎﻫﺎ ﻣﺆﻗﺘــﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﻟﻨﻔﺘﺮﺽ ﺃﻧﱠﻬﺎ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻋﻼﻭﻱ‪ ،‬ﻗـﺎﺩﺭﺓ ﺑﺸـﻜﻞ ﻓﻌﻠـﻲ‬ ‫ﻭﻋﻤﻠﻲ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺣﺼﺮ ﺍﻟﺴﻼﺡ ﺑﻴﺪ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧـﺎ ﹸﺃﻓﻀﱢـﻞ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺗﹸﻤ‪‬ﻬ‪‬ﺪ‪ ،‬ﺛﻢ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺑﻌﺪ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻤ‪‬ﺒ‪‬ﻜﱢﺮﺓ ﻫﻲ ﻣﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﺴـﺘﻠﻢ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻒ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫـﻞ ﺍﻷﻣـﺮ ﺑـﺎﻟﻎ ﺍﻟﺼـﻌﻮﺑﺔ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺤـﺪ‬ ‫ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﻼ‪ ،‬ﺇﻧﻤﺎ ﻳﺤﺘـﺎﺝ‬ ‫‪ ٤٠‬ﺇﻟﻰ ﻓﺘﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻭﻗﻠﻨﺎ ﺃﻧﱠﻪ ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺍﻹﻟﺤـﺎﺡ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‬

‫ﻣﺆﻗﺘﺔ‪ ،‬ﻟﺘﻨﺸﻐﻞ ﺑﺎﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑﺎﺕ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺑﻌـﺪ ﺍﻻﻧﺘﺨﺎﺑـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻨﺰﻳﻬـﺔ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻧﺠﻤــﻊ ﺍﻟﺴــﻼﺡ ﻓﻘــﻂ ﻭﺇﻧﻤــﺎ ﻧﺠﻤــﻊ ﺣﺘــﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻴﺸــﻴﺎﻭﻳﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﺘﺒﻌﻴﻴﻦ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﻟﻮﻗﺤﺔ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻛﻠﻬﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻗﺒﻞ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﻧﹾﺘﹶﻘ‪‬ﻞ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣﺤـﻮﺭ ﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋﺘﺒـﺮﻩ ﻣﻬـﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻫﻮ ﻣﺤﻮﺭ ﺗﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﺎﺑﻘﺔ‪ ،‬ﺣﻜﻮﻣـﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻋﺒﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ ﻭﻇﺮﻭﻓﻬﺎ ﺑﺸﻜﻞ ﻋﺎﻡ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ ﺍﻧﺘﻘﻠﺖﹶ ﺇﻟﻰ‬ ‫ﻋﺒﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ؟!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺿـﺮﻭﺭﻱ‪ ،‬ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺘﹸ ‪‬ﻚ ﻏﺎﺋـﺐ ﻟﻤـﺪﺓ ﻃﻮﻳﻠـﺔ‬ ‫ﻭﻟﻢ ﹸﺗﻮﺿﺢ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺎﺻﻴﻞ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﻐﺮﻳﺪﺓ ﺍﻷﺧﻴـﺮﺓ ﺫﹶﻛـﺮﺕﹶ ﺑﻬـﺎ ﻭﻟﻠﻤـﺮﺓ ﺍﻷُﻭﻟـﻰ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ‪:‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻄﺎﺋﻔﻴﻮﻥ ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳـﺪﻭﻥ ﻭﺍﻟﻌﺮﻗﻴـﻮﻥ‪ ..‬ﺍﻟﻄـﺎﺋﻔﻴﻮﻥ ﻭﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳـﺪﻭﻥ ‪٤١‬‬

‫ﺗﺬﻛﺮﻫﻢ ﺩﺍﺋﻤﺎﹰ‪ ..‬ﺑﻌﺾ ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺍﻗﺒﻴﻦ ﻓﻬﻤﻮﺍ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻟﻌﺮﻗﻴـﻮﻥ ﺃﻧﱠـﻚ‪‬‬ ‫ﺗﹶﻘﺼ‪‬ﺪ ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩ‪ ..‬ﻓﻬﻞ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺘﻔﺴﻴﺮ ﺻﺤﻴﺢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻧﻌﻢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺻﺤﻴﺢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻳﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻷﺣﺰﺍﺏ ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻳﺔ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺭﺟـﺎﺋﻲ ﻣﻨﻬـﺎ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻻ ﺗﹶﻠﺢ ﺯﺍﻳﺪ ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ‪ ،‬ﻳﻜﻔﻲ‪ ،‬ﺗﻀـﺮﺭ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﻭﻫـﻢ‬ ‫ﺗﹶﻀــﺮ‪‬ﺭﻭﺍ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺃﹸﺭﻳــﺪﻫﻢ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻀــ ‪‬ﺮﺭﻭﺍ ﺃﻛﺜــﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﻻ ﺍﹸﺭﻳــﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ‬ ‫ﻧﹶﻔﺘﺮﻕ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻻ ﺯﻟ ﹸﺖ ﺃﺗﺬﻛﺮ‪ ‬ﺳﻼﻡ ﺍﻟﻤﺎﻟﻜﻲ ﻭﺯﻳﺮ ﺍﻟﻨﻘـﻞ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺟﺎﺀﻧﻲ ﻗـﺎﺋ ﹰﻼ‪ :‬ﺃﺭﻳـﺪ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﺑﻨـﻲ ﻣﻄـﺎﺭﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﻭﺳـﺄﻟﻨﻲ ﻫـﻞ ﻳﺒـﺪﺃ‬ ‫ﺑﺎﻟﻨﺠﻒ؟ ﻓﻘﻠﺖﹸ ﻟـﻪ‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺍﺫﻫـﺐ ﻭﺃﺑـﺪﺃ ﺍﺑـﻦﹺ ﻓـﻲ ﻛﺮﺩﺳـﺘﺎﻥ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻄﺎﺭ ﺍﻷﻭﻝ ﻓﻲ ﻛﺮﺩﺳﺘﺎﻥ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻲ ﻧﻜـﻮ ‪‬ﻥ ﻟﻠﺠﻤﻴـﻊ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟـﻴﺲ‬ ‫‪ ٤٢‬ﻟﻠﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﻓﻘﻂ ﺗﹶﺒﻨﻲ ﻣﻄﺎﺭﺍﹰ ﻭﻫﻨﺎﻙ ﻻ ﺗﹶﺒﻨﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﻓﻌﻼﹰ ﺫﻫﺐ‪ ‬ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ‬

‫ﻭﺃﻛﻤﻠﻪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﻜﻤﻠﻪ ﻭﻟﻜﻦ ﺃﻗﺼـﺪ ﺑـﺪﺃ ﺑﺎﻟﻤﺸـﺮﻭﻉ‪ .‬ﻓـﻨﺤﻦ ﻻ‬ ‫ﻧﹶﻜﺮﻩ ﺍﻷﻛـﺮﺍﺩ‪ ،‬ﺑـﻞ ﻧﹸﺤـﺒ‪‬ﻬﻢ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜـﻦ ﺍﻟﺴﺎﺳـﺔ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻠ ‪‬ﺤـﻮﻥ ﺯﺍﻳـﺪ‬ ‫ﻋﻠﻰ ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺎﺻﺼﺔ ﻭﻋﻠﻰ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﻜﻮﻥ ﻓـﻼﻥ ﻭﻓـﻼﻥ ﻣـﻦ ﺣﺰﺑـﻲ‬ ‫ﻭﻣﻦ ﺟﻬﺘﻲ‪ ،‬ﻛﺮﺩﻱ ﻭﻳـﺪﺍﺭﻱ ﺍﻷﻛـﺮﺍﺩ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛـﺮﺩﻱ ﻭﻳـﺪﺍﺭﻱ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺷﻴﻌﻲ ﻭﻳﺪﺍﺭﻱ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺳـﻨﻲ ﻭﻳـﺪﺍﺭﻱ ﺍﻟﻜـﺮﺩ‬ ‫ﻭﻫﻜـﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﺃﺑﻮﻳـﺔ‪ ،‬ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﺜـﺎﻝ ﺍﻷﺑـﻮﻱ‪ ،‬ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻻ ﻳﻜـﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﻫﻨـﺎﻙ ﻛـﺮﺩﻱ ﻳﻌﻤـﻞ ﻟﻠﻜـﺮﺩ ﻭﺳـﻨﻲ ﻳﻌﻤـﻞ ﻟﻠﺴـﻨﺔ ﻭﺷـﻴﻌﻲ‬ ‫ﻳﻌﻤﻞ ﻟﻠﺸﻴﻌﺔ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳﻜـﻮﻥ ﻫـﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸـﻲﺀ ﻣﻄﻠﻘـﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺇﺫﺍ‬ ‫ﺻﺎﺭ ﻓﻴﺠﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺰﻝ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺘﻰ ﺟﺮﻯ ﺁﺧﺮ ﺍﺗﱢﺼـﺎﻝ ﺑﻴﻨـﻚ‪ ‬ﻭﺑـﻴﻦ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ‬ ‫ﻣﺴﻌﻮﺩ ﺑﺮﺯﺍﻧﻲ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﺗﻮﻗـﻊ ﺇﺫﺍ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﻧ ‪‬ﺲ‪ ،‬ﻓﻲ ﺃﻳﺎﻡ ﻋﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒﺪ ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ ﻭﺗﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺘﻪ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻳﻌﻨـﻲ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﻤﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ ﺑﻌـﺪ ﺗﺸـﺮﻳﻦ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺤﺼﻞ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ؟ ‪٤٣‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﻻ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸــﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻲ ﺍﻟﺮﺳـﺎﻟﺔ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺗﹸﺮﻳـﺪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺗﻮﺻ‪‬ـﻠﻬﺎ‬ ‫ﻟﻠﺰﻋﺎﻣـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻳـﺔ ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﻭﺣﺘـﻰ ﺍﻟﺴ‪‬ـﻨﻴﺔ ﻓﻴﻤـﺎ ﻳﺘﻌﻠـﻖ ﺑﻬـﺬﺍ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻣﺮ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺇﻟـﻰ ﺍﻷﺥ‬ ‫ﻣﺴﻌﻮﺩ‪ ..‬ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﺘﻌﺎﻃﻒ ﻣـﻊ ﺍﻷﻣﺮﻳﻜـﺎﻥ ﻷﻧﱠﻬـﻢ ﻟـ ‪‬ﻦ ﻳ‪‬ﻨﻔﻌـﻮﻩ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻧﺤﻦ ﻧﻨﻔﻌﻪ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﻳﺠﺐ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪ ‬ﹾﺨـﺮ‪‬ﺝ ﺍﻻﺣـﺘﻼﻝ ﺑـﺄﻱ ﺻـﻮﺭﺓ‬ ‫ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺼـﻮﺭ‪ ،‬ﻛﻔـﻰ ﻟﻌﺒـﹰﺎ ﺑﻤﻘـﺪﺭﺍﺗﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻛﻔـﻰ ﺗﻔﺮﻳﻘـﺎﹰ ﺑﻴﻨﻨـﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧـﺎ‬ ‫ﻛﺸﻴﻌﻲ ﺃﻋﺘﺒﺮ ﻧﻔﺴﻲ ﻛﺮﺩﻳﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺃﻧﺎ ﻛﺸﻴﻌﻲ ﺃﻋﺘﺒـﺮ ﻧﻔﺴـﻲ ﺳـﻨﻴﹰﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺃﻗﻠﻴﺎﺕ‪ ..‬ﺗﹸﺮﻛﻤﺎﻧﻲ‪ ،‬ﻣﺴﻴﺤﻲ‪ ،‬ﺇﻳﺰﻳﺪﻱ‪ ،‬ﺻﺎﺑﺌﻲ ﻛﻞ ﺷﻲﺀ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻋﺮﺍﻗﻲ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻋﺮﺍﻗﻲ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﺧـﺪﻡ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﺑﻘﺪﺭ ﻣﺎ ﺃﺧﺪﻡ ﺍﻟﺼـﺎﺑﺌﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺴـﻴﺤﻴﻴﻦ‪ ،‬ﻛﻠﻬـﻢ ﻋﻨـﺪﻱ‬ ‫ﻧﻔﺲ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ‪ ،‬ﻛﻠﻬﻢ ﺃﻭﻻﺩﻱ‪ ،‬ﻛﻠﻬﻢ ﺇﺧﻮﺍﻧﻲ‪ ،‬ﻛﻠﻬﻢ ﺁﺑـﺎﺋﻲ‪،‬‬ ‫‪ ٤٤‬ﻓﻠﻦ ﻳﻨﻔﻌﻪ ﺍﻻﺣﺘﻼﻝ‪ ،‬ﺳﻴﻨﻔﻌﻪ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻭﺃﻣﺜﺎﻟﻲ‪..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺳـﻨﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋـﻦ ﺍﻻﺣـﺘﻼﻝ ﺑﺎﻟﺘﻔﺼـﻴﻞ ﺳـﻤﺎﺣﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﻇﻦ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺳﻮﻑ ﻧﹶﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﺑﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﺃﻋﺪﻙ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻧﺖ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ ﺗﺤ ‪‬ﻤﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺰﺍﺡ!!‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ‪ -‬ﻓـﻲ ﻣﻘﺎﺑـﻞ ﻣـﺎ ﺗﹶﻌﺘﻘـﺪ‪ -‬ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﺃﺯﻣﺔ ﺗﺸﻜﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺑﺸﻜﻠﻬﺎ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻓﻘـﻂ ﺩﻗﻴﻘـﺔ‪..‬‬ ‫ﻓﻘﻂ ﺩﻗﻴﻘﺔ‪ ..‬ﺭﺳﺎﻟﺘﻲ ﻟﻸﻛﺮﺍﺩ ﻫﺬﻩ ﻫﻲ ﻟﻸﺥ ﻣﺴﻌﻮﺩ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺥ ﺳﺎﺷﻮﺍﺭ ﺷﺪ ﺣﻴﻠﻚ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻓـﻲ ﺍﻟﺘﻈـﺎﻫﺮﺍﺕ ﻋﺴـﻰ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻨﻔﹶﻌ‪‬ﻨﺎ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻥ ﻳﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﻓﻘﻂ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛـﺬﻟﻚ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ ﺃﻳﻀـﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﻓﻠﻴﺸﺪﻭﺍ ﻣﻦ ﻋﺰﻳﻤﺘﻬﻢ ﺃﻛﺜﺮ ﻟﻴﺘﻈﺎﻫﺮﻭﺍ‪ ،‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺳﻴﺎﺳﻴﻮ ﺍﻟﺸـﻴﻌﺔ‬ ‫ﻓﺎﺳﺪﻳﻦ ﻓﻘﻂ‪ ،‬ﺗﻮﺟﺪ ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻷﻃﺮﺍﻑ ﺍﻷﺧﺮﻯ ﻣ‪ ‬ﻦ ﻏﻴـﺮ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﻴﻌﺔ ﻓﺎﺳﺪﻳﻦ ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﺃﻳﻀﺎﹰ ﻳﺤﺘﺎﺟﻮﻥ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺟﺮﺓ ﺃﺫﻥ‪٤٥ .‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸـﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻓـﻲ ﻗ‪‬ﺒﺎﻟـﺔ ﻫـﺬﺍ‪ ،‬ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺘﻘـﺪ ﺍﻟـﺒﻌﺾ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﺃﺯﻣـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺔ‪ ،‬ﺑﺸـﻜﻠﻬﺎ ﺍﻟﺤـﺎﻟﻲ‪ ،‬ﺭﺑﻤـﺎ ﺗﹶـﺪﻓﻊ ﺑﻌـﺾ ﺍﻟﺘﻴ‪‬ـﺎﺭﺍﺕ‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻷﻃــﺮﺍﻑ ﺍﻟﻜﺮﺩﻳــﺔ ﺍﻟﺪﺍﻋﻤــﺔ ﻟﺘﺄﺳــﻴﺲ ﺩﻭﻟــﺔ ﻛﺮﺩﻳــﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺗﹸﺤ‪‬ﻔﱢﺰﻫﺎ ﻣﻦ ﺟﺪﻳﺪ ﻟﻄﺮﺡ ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﻤﻮﺿﻮﻉ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺣـﻴﻦ ﺗﹶـﺮﻓﺾ‬ ‫ﻓﻴﻨﺒﻐﻲ ﺃﻥ ﺗ‪‬ﻨﻘ‪‬ﺴﻢ‪...‬ﺃﺗﻘﺼﺪ ﻫﺬﺍ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻜﺬﺍ ﻳ‪‬ﻔﹶﺘﹺﺮ ﹸﺽ ﺍﻟﺒﻌﺾ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ ﺃﻋﺘﻘـﺪ ﺃﻧﱠﻬـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺴﺘﻄﻴﻌﻮﻥ ﺍﻻﻧﻘﺴﺎﻡ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻤﺎﺫﺍ؟ ﻭﻣﺎ ﺍﻟﺬﻱ ﻳ‪‬ﻤﻨﹶﻌ‪‬ﻬﻢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺃﻭﻻﹰ ﻻ ﻧﹸﺮﻳـﺪﻫﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻨﻘﺴــﻤﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﺇﺧﻮﺗﻨــﺎ ﻭﻣ‪‬ﻨﱠــﺎ ﻭﻓﻴﻨــﺎ‪ ،‬ﺛﺎﻧﻴــﹰﺎ ﻟﹶــ ‪‬ﻦﹶﻧﺴــﻤﺢ ﺑــﺄﻥ‬ ‫ﻳﻨﻘﺴﻤﻮﺍ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻫـﻢ ﻭﻻ ﺍﻷﻛـﺮﺍﺩ ﻭﻻ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ ﻭﻻ ﺣﺘـﻰ ﺍﻟﺸـﻴﻌﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫‪ ٤٦‬ﻭﻻ ﺇﻗﻠـﻴﻢ ﺷـﻴﻌﻲ‪ ،‬ﻟـﻦ ﺃﺳـﻤﺢ ﺑـﺬﻟﻚ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﻳﺠـﺐ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻘﹶﺴ‪‬ـﻢ‬

‫ﺍﻟﻌﺮﺍﻕ ﻓﻲ ﻫﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﻔﺘﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﻳ‪‬ﻀﹾﻌ‪‬ﻒ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﻌـﺮﺍﻕ ﺃﻛﺜـﺮ‪ ،‬ﻭﻳ‪‬ﺠﻌﻠـﻪ‬ ‫ﻟﹸﻘﻤﺔ ﻟﻠﻐﺮﺏ ﻭﺍﻟﺸﺮﻕ ﻭﺍﻟﺠﻨﻮﺏ ﻭﻏﻴﺮﻫﺎ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻟﻨﺘﻜﻠﻢ ﻋﻦ ﻓﺘﺮﺓ ﺣﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴـﻴﺪ ﻋـﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒـﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻬـﺪﻱ‪ ،‬ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺍﺧﺘﻔـﺖ ﻣﻼﻣـﺢ ﺍﻟﻔﺘـﺮﺓ ﺍﻟﺘـﻲ ﺃﺳ‪‬ﺴـﺘﹸﻢ ﻟﻬـﺎ‪،‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﺮﺣﻠــﺔ ﺍﻟﺘــﻲ ﺃﺳ‪‬ﺴــﺘﹸﻢ ﻟﻬــﺎ ﺟﻨــﺎﺑﻜﻢ‪ ،‬ﻭﺑﻀــﻤﻨﻬﺎ ﻛﻠﻤــﺔ‬ ‫)ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣﺔ ﺍﻷﺑﻮﻳﺔ(‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺍﻟﻤﻔـﺮﻭﺽ‬ ‫ﺃﻧﺎ ﻣﻦ ﻳﺴﺄﻝ ﻋﻦ ﺫﻟﻚ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻧـﺖ ﻣـﻦ ﻳﺴـﺄﻝ‪ ..‬ﻭﻟﻜـﻦ ﺗﻔﻀـﻞ‬ ‫ﺍﺳﺄﻝ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻭﺍﷲ ﺍﺳﺄﻝ ﺑﻜﻞ ﺣﺮﻳﺘﻚ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻤـﺎﺫﺍ؟ ﻻ‬ ‫ﺃﻋﺮﻑ‪..‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻛﻴﻒ ﻻ ﺗﻌﺮﻑ؟! ﺇﺫﺍ ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ ﻻ ﻳ‪‬ﻌﺮﹺﻑ؟ ﻓﻤ‪‬ﻦ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻌـﺮﹺﻑ ﺇﺫﻥ؟ ﺃﺳـﺄ ﹸﻝ ‪‬ﻣـﻦ‪‬؟ ﺇﻟـﻰ ﻣ‪‬ـﻦ‪‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺘﹶﺠﺊ؟! ‪٤٧‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺍﻟﻈﺎﻫﺮ ﻷﻧﻨـﻲ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﺃﹸﺗﺎﺑﻊ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﺭﺩﺕﹸ ﺍﻟﺬﻫﺎﺏ ﻟﻠـﺪﺭﺱ‪ ،‬ﻭﺃﻧـﺎ ﺃﻋﻄﻴـﺖﹸ ﻟﻌـﺎﺩﻝ ﻋﺒـﺪ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻤﻬﺪﻱ ﻣﻬﻠﺔ ﺳﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﺍﻧﺘﻬﺖ ﺍﻟﺴـﻨﺔ ﺃﺻـﺪﺭﺕﹸ ﺑﺤﻘـﻪ ﺗﻐﺮﻳـﺪﺓ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﹶﺨﹶﺮ‪‬ﺟ‪‬ﺖﹾ ﻣﻈﺎﻫﺮﺓ ﻭﻗﻠﺖ ﻟﻬﻢ ﻳ‪‬ﺠـﺐ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﻳ‪‬ﺴـﺘﻘﻴﻞ‪ ،‬ﻭﻓﻌـﻼﹰ ﻟـﻢ‬ ‫ﻳﻔﻌﻞ ﻣﺎ ﻫﻮ ﻋﻠﻴﻪ؛ ﻷﻧﻪ ﺑـﺎﺭﺩ ﻗﻠـﻴ ﹰﻼ ‪ ..‬ﺍﻟﺮﺟـﻞ ﺑـﺎﺭﺩ‪ ،‬ﻻ ﺃﻗـﻮﻝ‬ ‫ﻏﻴﺮ ﺟﻴﺪ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﺑﺎﺭﺩ ﻭﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﺪﻳﻪ ﺣﺮﺍﺭﺓ ﺍﻟﺸﺒﺎﺏ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣﺎ ﺍﻟـﺬﻱ ﻛـﺎﻥ ﻋﻠﻴـﻪ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳ‪‬ﻔﻌﻠـﻪ ﻓـﻲ ﻏﻀـﻮﻥ‬ ‫ﺳﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﺳﻤﺎﺣﺔ ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴــﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘــﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼــﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋــﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻣﺤﺎﺳــﺒﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﺎﺳﺪﻳﻦ‪ ،‬ﺧﺪﻣﺎﺕ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻜﻬﺮﺑﺎﺀ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻤﺎﺀ‪ ،‬ﺍﻟﻜﺜﻴﺮ ﻣـﻦ ﺍﻷﺷـﻐﺎﻝ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻭﺍﻟﻤﺸــﻜﻠﺔ ﺃ ‪‬ﻥ ﺗﹶﺮﹺﻛــﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻮﻣــﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺴــﺎﺑﻘﺔ‪ ،‬ﺧﺼﻮﺻــﺎﹰ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﺳﺒﻖ‪ ،‬ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻛﺒﻴﺮﺓ‪ ،‬ﺣﻞﱠ ﺑ‪‬ﻌﻀﻬﺎ ﺍﻷﺥ ﺍﻟﻌﺒﺎﺩﻱ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻛـﺎﻥ‬ ‫ﻓﻲ ﺍﻷﺧﻴﺮ )ﺧﺮﺑﻂ()‪ (١‬ﻗﻠـﻴﻼﹰ‪ ،‬ﻭﻛـﺎﻥ ﻳﺠـﺐ ﻋﻠـﻰ ﻋـﺎﺩﻝ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺤ‪‬ﻞﱠ ﻗﺴﻤﺎﹰ ﻛﺒﻴﺮﺍﹰ ﻣﻨﻬﺎ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻦ ﻳﺒﺪﻭ ﺃﻧﱠﻬﻢ ﻟﻢ ﻳﺴﺘﻄﻴﻌﻮﺍ‪.‬‬ ‫‪٤٨‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﺗﺨﺒﻂ‪ :‬ﻳﺘﺼﺮ‪‬ﻑ ﻋﻠﻰ ﻏﻴﺮ ﻫﺪ‪‬ﻯ‪ ،‬ﻳﺨﻄﺊ ﻭﻳﺼﻴﺐ‪.‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻣـﺎ ﺩﺍﻡ ﺃﻧﱠﻬـﺎ ﹶﺗﺮﻛـﺎﺕ ﻟﻠﺤﻜﻮﻣـﺎﺕ ﺍﻟﺴـﺎﺑﻘﺔ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻫـﻞ ﻳ‪‬ﺴـﺘﻄﻴﻊ‪ ‬ﺣﻠﱠﻬـﺎ ﺑﺴـﻨﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻋﺸـﺮﺓ ﺃﺷـﻬﺮ‪ ،‬ﺃﻭ ﺑﺄﺣـﺪ‪ ‬ﻋﺸـﺮ‬ ‫ﺷﻬﺮﺍﹰ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼـﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﺳـﻨﺔ‪ ،‬ﻣـﺎ ﻫـﻮ‬ ‫ﺍﻷﻛﺜﺮ ﻣﻦ ﺍﻟﺴﻨﺔ؟ ﻫﻲ ﻛﻠﻬـﺎ ﺃﺭﺑـﻊ ﺳـﻨﻮﺍﺕ‪ ،‬ﻓﻤـﺎﺫﺍ ﺗﹸﻌﻄﻴـﻪ؟‬ ‫ﺃﺗﻌﻄﻴﻪ ﺛﻼﺙ ﺳﻨﻮﺍﺕ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﻫﻞ ﺗﹶﻌﻬﺪ ﻫﻮ ﺑﻬﺬﺍ ﺍﻟﺸﻲﺀ؟ ﻫﻞ ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻟﺪﻳـﻪ‬ ‫ﺭﺅﻳﺔ ﻗﺪ‪‬ﻣﻬﺎ ﻟﻜﻢ؟‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋـﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻻ‪ ،‬ﺑﻴﻨـﻲ ﻭﺑـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻧﻔﺴﻲ‪ ،‬ﺑﻴﻨﻲ ﻭﺑﻴﻦ ﺭﺑﻲ‪ ،‬ﻭﺑﻴﻨﻲ ﻭﺑﻴﻦ ﺷﻌﺒﻲ ﺃﻋﻄﹶﻴﺘﹸﻪ ﻣـﺪﺓ ﺳـﻨﺔ‬ ‫ﻷﺭﺍﻩ‪ ،‬ﻓﺈﺫﺍ ﻧﹶﺠ‪ ‬ﺢ ﻓﺒﻬﺎ ﻭﺃﺳﺘﹶ ‪‬ﻤﺮ ﺑﺪﻋﻤﻪ‪ ،‬ﻭﺇﺫﺍ ﻟﻢ ﻳـﻨﺠﺢ ﻓـﺄﻗﻮﻝ‬ ‫ﻟﻪ‪ :‬ﺃﻧ ﹶﺖ ﻟﻢ ﺗﹶﻨﺠﺢ‪.‬‬ ‫ﺍﻟﺸﺮﻗﻴﺔ‪ :‬ﺃﻻ ﺗﹸﻮﺟـﺪ ﺗﹶﺒﺮﻳـﺮﺍﺕ؟ ﻟـﻮ ﻓﺮﺿـﺖﹶ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻋـﺪﻡ‬ ‫ﺗﻘﺪﻳﻢ ﺍﻟﺨﺪﻣﺎﺕ ﻫﻮ ﻓﺸﻞ‪ ،‬ﺣﻴﻦ ﺗﹶﺴﺄﻟ ‪‬ﻪ ﻳﻘـﻮﻝ‪ :‬ﺇﻧﱠﻨـﻲ ﺃﺣﺘـﺎﺝ‪‬‬ ‫ﻭﻗﺘﺎﹰ‪ ،‬ﻫﺬﺍ ﺍﻷﻣﺮ ﺑ‪‬ﻨﻰ ﺗﺤﺘﻴﺔ‪٤٩ ..‬‬

‫ﺍﻟﺴﻴﺪ ﻣﻘﺘﺪﻯ ﺍﻟﺼﺪﺭ )ﺃﻋﺰﻩ ﺍﷲ(‪ :‬ﻟﻴﺲ ﺑﻴـﺪﻩ ﻭﺇﻧﻤـﺎ‬ ‫ﻫـﺬﻩ ﺍﻟﺪﻭﻟـﺔ ﻋﻤﻴﻘـﺔ ﻭﺗـﺘﺤﻜﻢ ﺑﻬـﺎ ﺍﻷﺣـﺰﺍﺏ ﻟـﻴﺲ ﺑﻴـﺪﻩ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻓﻜﻴﻒ ﻳ‪‬ﺒﻨﻲ؟ ﻭﻛﻴﻒ ﻛﺬﺍ؟ ﻭﺇﻥ‪ ‬ﻛﺎﻧﺖ ﻟﻴﺴﺖ ﻟﻄﻴﻔﺔ ﺑﻌـﺾ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻮﺯﺭﺍﺀ ﺍﻟﺬﻳﻦ ﻛـﺎﻧﻮﺍ ﻳﻨﺘﻤـﻮﻥ ﻟﻨـﺎ ﻓـﻲ ﻓﺘـﺮﺍﺕ ﺳـﺎﺑﻘﺔ‪ ،‬ﻓﻘـﻂ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳﺪﻭﻥ ﺗﻮﻗﻴـﻊ ﻣـﻦ ﻓـﻼﻥ ﺃﻭ ﻓـﻼﻥ ﻟﺒﻨـﺎﺀ ﻣﺸـﺮﻭﻉ ﻻ ‪‬ﻳﻮﱢﻗـﻊ؛‬ ‫ﻟﻴﺲ ﺑﻴﺪﻩ ﻷﻥ ﺣﺰﺑ ‪‬ﻪ ﺭﺍﻓﺾ ﻓﻼ ﻳﻮﻗ‪‬ﻊ‪ ،‬ﻟﻜﻲ ﻻ ﺗﻜﻮﻥ ﻣ‪‬ﻐﻨﻤـﹰﺎ‬ ‫ﻟﻤﻘﺘﺪﻯ‪ ،‬ﻭﻟﻜﻲ ﻻ ﺗﻜﻮﻥ ‪‬ﻣﻐﻨﻤـﺎﹰ ﻟﻠـﻮﺯﻳﺮ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧـﻲ ﺃﻭ ﻟﻠﺠﻬـﺔ‬ ‫ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧﻴﺔ ﺃﻭ ﻟﻠﺤـﺰﺏ ﺍﻟﻔﻼﻧـﻲ! ﻋﺒـﺎﺭﺓ ﻋـﻦ ﺻـﺮﺍﻋﺎﺕ ﺑﻴـﻨﻬﻢ‪،‬‬ ‫ﻟﻴﺴــﺖ ﺩﻭﻟــﺔ‪ ..‬ﺃﻗــﻮﻝﹸ ﻟــﻚ ﺷــﻲﺀ؟ ﻟﻴﺴــﺖ ﺩﻭﻟــﺔ‪ ..‬ﻭﺇﻧﻤــﺎ‬ ‫)ﻣﺰﻋﻄــﺔ()‪ ..!(١‬ﻳﻌﻨــﻲ ﺑﺎﻟﺼــﺮﻳﺢ )ﻣﺰﻋﻄــﺔ(!‪ ..‬ﺃﻧــﺎﺱ ﻓﻘــﻂ‬ ‫ﻳ‪‬ﺮﻳـﺪﻭ ‪‬ﻥ ﺃﻥ‪ ‬ﻳﺠﻤﻌـﻮﺍ ﺃﻣـﻮﺍﻝ‪ ،‬ﻭﻋﻠـﻰ ﺳـﺒﻴﻞ ﺍﻟﻤﺜـﺎﻝ ﻳـﺄﺗﻴﻨﻲ‬ ‫ﺷـﺨﺺ ﻋـﺎﺩﻱ ﻭﻳﻘـﻮﻝ ﺇﻧﱠﻨـﻲ ﻓﻘﻴـﺮ ﻭﻋﻨـﺪﻱ ﺷـﻬﺪﺍﺀ ﺍﺛﻨـﻴﻦ‬ ‫ﻋﻨﺪﻱ ﻓﻠﻮﺱ ﻭﻻ ﺭﻭﺍﺗﺐ‪ ،‬ﻓﻌﻴ‪‬ﻨﻲ! ﻳﻌﻨﻲ ﺃﻧﺎ ﻣﻔﺘﺢ ﺩﺍﺭ ﻳﺘـﺎﻣﻰ‬ ‫ﻣﺜ ﹰﻼ؟ ﺍﻟﺘﻌﻴﻴﻦ ﻟﻠﻤ‪‬ﺘﺨﺼﺺ ﺃﻡ ﻟﻠﻔﻘﻴﺮ؟ ﻟﻴﺲ ﻟﻬﺎ ﻣﻌﻨﻰ! ﻫـﻮ ﺃﻥ‪‬‬ ‫‪٥٠‬‬ ‫)‪ (١‬ﻣﻔﺮﺩﺓ ﻋﺮﺍﻗﻴﺔ ﺩﺍﺭﺟﺔ ﻭﻣﻌﻨﺎﻫﺎ ﺃﻃﻔﺎﻝ‪.‬‬


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